Message from @Reb Trump
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are you anti-semitic?
That's not an unfair assessment
not as antisemitic as some, sure, but most anyone would consider me so
do you buy kevin mcdonad's shit that I'm born evil?
I have yet to read MacDonald. I would not say you're intrinsically evil, though.
what makes jews evil then?
The mistake of some people in my realm of views is to apply the characterizations of "international Jews" to average Jews you may find in your neighborhood. It's undeniable that there are Jews who are in the upper-echelon of society. It's undeniable that Jews, being only 2% of the American population, are grossly overrepresented in the number of millionaires, billionaires, or general positions of influence (Hollywood, etc.). Applying what anyone with power does to those without power is dumb.
Going back to what started all of this (that whole thing with the Founding Fathers), John Jay's quote is very good, and quite Fascist in nature. That the United States government and people were made for each other. Jews do not fit this view, therefore their representation in the upper rungs of society is inherently wrong.
I'm gonna look up the quote
it's in the picture
I came into the convo later
bottom
this:
"Real Christians will abstain from violating the rights of others, and therefore will not provoke war. Almost all nations have peace or war at the will and pleasure of rulers whom they do not elect, and who are not always wise or virtuous. Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest, of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."[44] He also expressed a belief that the moral precepts of Christianity were necessary for good government, saying, "No human society has ever been able to maintain both order and freedom, both cohesiveness and liberty apart from the moral precepts of the Christian Religion. Should our Republic ever forget this fundamental precept of governance, we will then, be surely doomed.
You're reaching with the agreed upon application and interpretation of that quote
it was in a letter to another individual
he's not the only founding father
had the founding fathers, as a consensus , agreed with not only that quote, but your intepretation of it , it would've been condified into law that only christians can get elected
but even reading the quote, it doesn't necessarily mean that
it reads like a proposal at the strongest and advice at the weakest
`and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest, of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."`
I see this as voting advice to the public
also
his justification for it
is this:
`"No human society has ever been able to maintain both order and freedom, both cohesiveness and liberty apart from the moral precepts of the Christian Religion.`
judaism is a minor religion ,statistically
and this wasn't a time when everyone kept saying "judeo-christian values"
Well, yeah, it certainly is advice. I'm not saying it's law.
I'm speaking to the philosophy behind it
but "the moral precepts of the Christian Religion." are almost surely from the old testament
jews satisfy that
also
this would preclude from electing atheist nonjewish whites
You're not taking this as I've meant it
yet, I'm sure that you'll argue
that the US shouldn't make attempts to deport white atheists
even though the advice is not to elect them
now, you're gonna tell me , this statement doesn't just apply to gov positions
but applies to all kind of power