Message from @Reb Trump

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2018-12-31 23:19:23 UTC  

I was interested to pick your brain, moreso

2018-12-31 23:19:34 UTC  

ok, then I'll ask specific questions

2018-12-31 23:19:42 UTC  

are you anti-semitic?

2018-12-31 23:19:56 UTC  

That's not an unfair assessment

2018-12-31 23:20:13 UTC  

not as antisemitic as some, sure, but most anyone would consider me so

2018-12-31 23:20:36 UTC  

do you buy kevin mcdonad's shit that I'm born evil?

2018-12-31 23:21:32 UTC  

I have yet to read MacDonald. I would not say you're intrinsically evil, though.

2018-12-31 23:21:50 UTC  

what makes jews evil then?

2018-12-31 23:26:18 UTC  

The mistake of some people in my realm of views is to apply the characterizations of "international Jews" to average Jews you may find in your neighborhood. It's undeniable that there are Jews who are in the upper-echelon of society. It's undeniable that Jews, being only 2% of the American population, are grossly overrepresented in the number of millionaires, billionaires, or general positions of influence (Hollywood, etc.). Applying what anyone with power does to those without power is dumb.

Going back to what started all of this (that whole thing with the Founding Fathers), John Jay's quote is very good, and quite Fascist in nature. That the United States government and people were made for each other. Jews do not fit this view, therefore their representation in the upper rungs of society is inherently wrong.

2018-12-31 23:27:32 UTC  

I'm gonna look up the quote

2018-12-31 23:27:38 UTC  

it's in the picture

2018-12-31 23:27:52 UTC  

I came into the convo later

2018-12-31 23:28:07 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/529440647887847436/quote_-_founding_fathers_2.jpg

2018-12-31 23:28:12 UTC  

bottom

2018-12-31 23:31:27 UTC  

this:

2018-12-31 23:31:33 UTC  

"Real Christians will abstain from violating the rights of others, and therefore will not provoke war. Almost all nations have peace or war at the will and pleasure of rulers whom they do not elect, and who are not always wise or virtuous. Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest, of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."[44] He also expressed a belief that the moral precepts of Christianity were necessary for good government, saying, "No human society has ever been able to maintain both order and freedom, both cohesiveness and liberty apart from the moral precepts of the Christian Religion. Should our Republic ever forget this fundamental precept of governance, we will then, be surely doomed.

2018-12-31 23:32:39 UTC  

You're reaching with the agreed upon application and interpretation of that quote

2018-12-31 23:33:01 UTC  

it was in a letter to another individual

2018-12-31 23:33:13 UTC  

he's not the only founding father

2018-12-31 23:34:34 UTC  

had the founding fathers, as a consensus , agreed with not only that quote, but your intepretation of it , it would've been condified into law that only christians can get elected

2018-12-31 23:35:05 UTC  

but even reading the quote, it doesn't necessarily mean that

2018-12-31 23:35:40 UTC  

it reads like a proposal at the strongest and advice at the weakest

2018-12-31 23:36:17 UTC  

nevermind, that it easily includes jews

2018-12-31 23:36:55 UTC  

`and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest, of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers."`

2018-12-31 23:37:23 UTC  

I see this as voting advice to the public

2018-12-31 23:38:02 UTC  

also

2018-12-31 23:38:08 UTC  

his justification for it

2018-12-31 23:38:14 UTC  

is this:

2018-12-31 23:38:20 UTC  

`"No human society has ever been able to maintain both order and freedom, both cohesiveness and liberty apart from the moral precepts of the Christian Religion.`

2018-12-31 23:38:44 UTC  

judaism is a minor religion ,statistically

2018-12-31 23:39:00 UTC  

and this wasn't a time when everyone kept saying "judeo-christian values"

2018-12-31 23:39:42 UTC  

Well, yeah, it certainly is advice. I'm not saying it's law.

2018-12-31 23:39:49 UTC  

I'm speaking to the philosophy behind it

2018-12-31 23:39:50 UTC  

but "the moral precepts of the Christian Religion." are almost surely from the old testament

2018-12-31 23:40:00 UTC  

jews satisfy that

2018-12-31 23:40:06 UTC  

also

2018-12-31 23:40:24 UTC  

this would preclude from electing atheist nonjewish whites

2018-12-31 23:40:40 UTC  

You're not taking this as I've meant it

2018-12-31 23:40:45 UTC  

yet, I'm sure that you'll argue

2018-12-31 23:41:05 UTC  

that the US shouldn't make attempts to deport white atheists

2018-12-31 23:41:15 UTC  

even though the advice is not to elect them