Message from @Reb Trump
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looking at history
I think the US was great
during the 80's
I want a return to that
whites were >80%
hollywood movies were all arnold blowing shit up
no SJWs
I'm fine with that
I don't want to radically restructure society
people who do that end up with grave results each time
I don't necessarily want to either, because it will restructure itself, I believe. The real problem with any political debate is that they all end up with people talking past each other. You and I could debate the place of minorities every day of the rest of our lives. But until we address the underlying principles behind what informs our opinions, it's meaningless
The real argument you and I were having this whole time was the degree to which humans can escape nature
rather, how severe is that aspect of nature and how much can we trust the results on it
nevermind how ethical or wise it would be structuring society on in your framework, deconstructing it and letting it restructure itself
arguebly, if humans are how you say they are, and society used to plainly reflect it
then where we are is how precisely how society has structured itself
Yeah
Is that to say I'm wrong because America is not in a state of disrepair?
you're wrong to jump to conclusions when we barely have any relevant studies
you might be an actor in society structuring itself
and the path of whites becoming a minority
no one is saying you shouldn't react to it
what I am suggesting is that you should be react to it within its structure, as understood by the constitution, basic morals etc
as opposed to restructuring it
and let's face it
if you violently dismantle the gov
and then "allow it to restructure"
as you put it
that's still you restructuring it - you're just not having any input beyond a certain point
it's analogous to pavlov's dog - you're still teaching it what to do if you keep smacking it each time it does something what you don't want it do
it just gets there by process of elimination
Where are you saying it goes by the process of elimination?
I'm imaging a naive model with finite options
I really mean that you're imposing it to search for the outcome that you're looking for
being the ethnostate, I assume you mean in this case
yup
because you don't know
you might toppple the gov
and then it naturally restructures itself into something worse
and then you gotta topple it again