Message from @Reb Trump

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2019-01-01 00:00:05 UTC  

the ingroup preference is much stronger on your end

2019-01-01 00:01:11 UTC  

I don't deny that it is. Ingroup preferences historically arise as a response. Knowing whites will become a minority is a warning for soemthing bad, which you agreed to. In this way, whites -- as well as all ethnicities -- should seek to not be minorities.

2019-01-01 00:02:04 UTC  

how does classifying jews as nonwhite and restricting them from office optimal to that goal?

2019-01-01 00:02:41 UTC  

It's more so in response to the doings and opinions of international Jews

2019-01-01 00:03:00 UTC  

if you're creating policy as we go

2019-01-01 00:03:14 UTC  

why not just create a policy which prevents the "international" action

2019-01-01 00:04:04 UTC  

just write in a law about maintaining a certain demographic threshhold

2019-01-01 00:04:26 UTC  

it's no crazier than what you've proposed

2019-01-01 00:08:20 UTC  

If you really boil things down, most any of my opinions politically can be summed in this:
Humans were created and bred in tribal environments and lived in such for the past 200,000 years or so, which is a fraction of a fraction in the evolutionary timescale. Humans have had next to no time to evolve away from tribalism. Multiethnic societies are very new and historically are torn apart (and a fair amount of the time viscerally) due to some ethnic tension. It is best to avoid multiethnic society to keep deep-seated tribal tendencies at bay

2019-01-01 00:08:38 UTC  

And that this has been the way, of course, for millennia until very recently

2019-01-01 00:09:09 UTC  

There is some esoteric Traditional knowledge which has been thrown out with Modernism

2019-01-01 00:10:14 UTC  

we disagree to the degree to which that is true and to the degree that we're willing to invest in it being true

2019-01-01 00:10:46 UTC  

as I said earlier, few studies exist to form a solid conclusion

2019-01-01 00:11:00 UTC  

I'm not an evolutionary anthropologist

2019-01-01 00:11:07 UTC  

I don't think you are either

2019-01-01 00:11:12 UTC  

Well, with what little knowledge there is about human nature, history is not a liar

2019-01-01 00:11:23 UTC  

looking at history

2019-01-01 00:11:28 UTC  

I think the US was great

2019-01-01 00:11:34 UTC  

during the 80's

2019-01-01 00:11:40 UTC  

I want a return to that

2019-01-01 00:11:47 UTC  

whites were >80%

2019-01-01 00:12:00 UTC  

hollywood movies were all arnold blowing shit up

2019-01-01 00:12:06 UTC  

no SJWs

2019-01-01 00:12:12 UTC  

I'm fine with that

2019-01-01 00:12:24 UTC  

I don't want to radically restructure society

2019-01-01 00:12:42 UTC  

people who do that end up with grave results each time

2019-01-01 00:14:36 UTC  

I don't necessarily want to either, because it will restructure itself, I believe. The real problem with any political debate is that they all end up with people talking past each other. You and I could debate the place of minorities every day of the rest of our lives. But until we address the underlying principles behind what informs our opinions, it's meaningless

2019-01-01 00:14:52 UTC  

The real argument you and I were having this whole time was the degree to which humans can escape nature

2019-01-01 00:15:46 UTC  

rather, how severe is that aspect of nature and how much can we trust the results on it

2019-01-01 00:16:29 UTC  

nevermind how ethical or wise it would be structuring society on in your framework, deconstructing it and letting it restructure itself

2019-01-01 00:17:19 UTC  

arguebly, if humans are how you say they are, and society used to plainly reflect it

2019-01-01 00:17:40 UTC  

then where we are is how precisely how society has structured itself

2019-01-01 00:17:51 UTC  

Yeah

2019-01-01 00:18:27 UTC  

Is that to say I'm wrong because America is not in a state of disrepair?

2019-01-01 00:19:26 UTC  

you're wrong to jump to conclusions when we barely have any relevant studies

2019-01-01 00:19:45 UTC  

you might be an actor in society structuring itself

2019-01-01 00:19:58 UTC  

currently, there is a wave of anti-white rhetoric

2019-01-01 00:20:17 UTC  

and the path of whites becoming a minority

2019-01-01 00:20:34 UTC  

no one is saying you shouldn't react to it

2019-01-01 00:21:10 UTC  

what I am suggesting is that you should be react to it within its structure, as understood by the constitution, basic morals etc

2019-01-01 00:21:30 UTC  

as opposed to restructuring it