Message from @Rob Travis (Mason)

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2018-06-13 04:15:54 UTC  

you cant box up free will in a definition, its too big for that with too many implications

2018-06-13 04:16:01 UTC  

Is there multiple possible outcomes?

2018-06-13 04:16:09 UTC  

yes

2018-06-13 04:16:13 UTC  

No

2018-06-13 04:16:16 UTC  

Always

2018-06-13 04:16:26 UTC  

How can there be if cause and effect exists

2018-06-13 04:16:31 UTC  

There isn’t room

2018-06-13 04:16:38 UTC  

theres plenty

2018-06-13 04:16:50 UTC  

What room is there?

2018-06-13 04:17:23 UTC  

The laws of the universe aren’t loose

2018-06-13 04:17:36 UTC  

They can’t be broken on our level

2018-06-13 04:17:40 UTC  

its very tight

2018-06-13 04:18:25 UTC  

to the point we are only able to break the "laws of physics" at the subatomic level

2018-06-13 04:19:11 UTC  

I don’t think that restricts free will

2018-06-13 04:19:42 UTC  

thats two completely different topics

2018-06-13 04:19:52 UTC  

one is philosphy one is physics

2018-06-13 04:20:29 UTC  

free will in the physical sense cant exist because nothing can exist without influencing factors

2018-06-13 04:20:29 UTC  

ok, lemme ask you a question. if a man with no moral experience for whatever reason was given a piece of paper. that had one question with four different answers about a moral question. which one would he chose?

2018-06-13 04:20:49 UTC  

Imossible

2018-06-13 04:21:00 UTC  

>if a man with no moral experience

2018-06-13 04:21:04 UTC  

its an important thought question

2018-06-13 04:21:18 UTC  

how is it important?

2018-06-13 04:21:33 UTC  

just try your best to answer it

2018-06-13 04:22:00 UTC  

its not a realistic question so it serves no realistic purpose

2018-06-13 04:22:21 UTC  

it doesnt have to be, its a thought question

2018-06-13 04:22:36 UTC  

so philosophy

2018-06-13 04:22:54 UTC  

whatever floats your boat

2018-06-13 04:23:39 UTC  

well it is statistically a 55% chance the correct option is"C"

2018-06-13 04:24:15 UTC  

if morals are arbitrary, then there is no right answer, he answers it as he sees it

2018-06-13 04:24:32 UTC  

He wouldn’t answer it

2018-06-13 04:24:38 UTC  

That’s what happens in a vacuum

2018-06-13 04:24:41 UTC  

ok for that to have validity you have to now find a man with no moral experiemce

2018-06-13 04:25:04 UTC  

i can rephrase the question to be more realistic

2018-06-13 04:25:37 UTC  

If there is no cause there will be no effect

2018-06-13 04:25:39 UTC  

the thought exercize itself is worthless as we have intrinsic values

2018-06-13 04:26:21 UTC  

we can only have intrinsic values if we have an outside entity to give us those

2018-06-13 04:26:26 UTC  

not true

2018-06-13 04:26:29 UTC  

instincts

2018-06-13 04:26:38 UTC  

if its food hed try to save it

2018-06-13 04:26:49 UTC  

instincts are not intrinsic nor are they values

2018-06-13 04:26:49 UTC  

if its an offspring hed try to save it