Message from @L0GAN

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2018-06-21 07:35:28 UTC  

He called fascism "socialism's best form"

2018-06-21 07:35:40 UTC  

Yes, fascism is non-Marxian socialism.

2018-06-21 07:35:49 UTC  

Or it can be. Not all fascism is.

2018-06-21 07:35:59 UTC  

Corporatism is hardly Marxist, and Gentile was a corporatist.

2018-06-21 07:38:06 UTC  

At any rate I think the argument that fascism in its earliest form was inspired by Marx that would be a weak argument to claim that it's the same as communism, because it clearly is not.

2018-06-21 07:38:42 UTC  

Nazis were very clearly anti-Marxist, and all fascists are anti-communist.

2018-06-21 07:39:58 UTC  

Well heres my look on things

2018-06-21 07:40:08 UTC  

I dont see far left and far right as very different

2018-06-21 07:40:26 UTC  

They are very very different, even within their own circles.

2018-06-21 07:40:30 UTC  

As theyre typically radical and unfunctional

2018-06-21 07:40:50 UTC  

To put it bluntly people who draw the conclusion that they're the same are usually ignorant.

2018-06-21 07:41:01 UTC  

They are very different

2018-06-21 07:41:05 UTC  

The far left is especially divisive.

2018-06-21 07:41:06 UTC  

but compared to other governments

2018-06-21 07:41:40 UTC  

The status quo being entrenched and the norm, being the status quo, does not make the radical left or right any more alike.

2018-06-21 07:41:56 UTC  

Basically

2018-06-21 07:42:00 UTC  

what im trying to get to

2018-06-21 07:42:06 UTC  

is communism was better than facism

2018-06-21 07:42:12 UTC  

mostly everything else is better than communism

2018-06-21 07:42:31 UTC  

Communism is better than fascism?

2018-06-21 07:42:37 UTC  

Tbh yes

2018-06-21 07:42:41 UTC  

How?

2018-06-21 07:42:51 UTC  

fascism couldnt last more than 30 years

2018-06-21 07:43:28 UTC  

fascism killed 60 million in a few years

2018-06-21 07:43:40 UTC  

Im not supporting communism on any means

2018-06-21 07:43:43 UTC  

How is that a fault of fascism? Fascism was born out of irredentism, and necessitated imperialism. That was the material condition of the era, it doesn't show any fault of fascism. Look at it for more than two seconds.

2018-06-21 07:44:03 UTC  

I don't think most serious fascists stand by fascist imperialism.

2018-06-21 07:44:12 UTC  

In many ways it's actually contradictory to fascist goals.

2018-06-21 07:44:30 UTC  

look at the goals of fascism

2018-06-21 07:44:33 UTC  

and traits of it

2018-06-21 07:45:20 UTC  

The only goals of fascism would have been to take back rightful Italian and German lands, and they did much more than that. Hitler and Mussolini easily could have gotten away with just that but they were both megalomaniacs and petty men who declared war on the entire world. So I don't see your point.

2018-06-21 07:46:14 UTC  

Ok im a rightist not a racist, they werent "rightful german and italian lands" by that point, america should belong to britain, mussolini was horrible compared to hitler in war.

2018-06-21 07:46:29 UTC  

Ultranationalism obviously would require the reclamation of ancestral lands in any fascist country, but that's where fascism ends. Past that it's imperialism, which can happen to anybody. Alcibiades had a pretty good speech on the expansion of empires and decadence of stagnant ones.

2018-06-21 07:46:31 UTC  

Hitler was genius

2018-06-21 07:46:36 UTC  

Mussolini

2018-06-21 07:46:37 UTC  

was

2018-06-21 07:46:43 UTC  

ehh

2018-06-21 07:46:59 UTC  

Why should America belong to Britain by the point of WWII?

2018-06-21 07:47:13 UTC  

If your point is that they reclaimed theyre land

2018-06-21 07:47:15 UTC  

britain

2018-06-21 07:47:19 UTC  

should own america