Message from @L0GAN

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2018-06-21 07:20:57 UTC  

Except they're completely antithetical on almost every level.

2018-06-21 07:21:10 UTC  

But yeah basically the same I guess.

2018-06-21 07:22:51 UTC  

Communism: A stateless society. A society that destroys tradition. A society that focuses on the worker as the arbiter of prosperity.
Fascism: A statist society. A society that strengthens tradition. A society that utilizes the worker as an instrument of the state.

2018-06-21 07:25:27 UTC  

Both communists and fascists agree they are nothing alike and it seems only people who know nothing about either believe they're the same.

2018-06-21 07:32:47 UTC  

Im not a neo nazi and an acual, normal rightist, and I gotta say, both are bad, one one has worked

2018-06-21 07:33:21 UTC  

so...

2018-06-21 07:34:03 UTC  

What's bad about fascism?

2018-06-21 07:34:15 UTC  

Fascism is radicalized centrism tbh

2018-06-21 07:34:24 UTC  

No. It isn't. At all.

2018-06-21 07:34:43 UTC  

It's a blending of elements from the far right and far left. It's the opposite of centrism.

2018-06-21 07:34:53 UTC  

🤔

2018-06-21 07:35:11 UTC  

shhh

2018-06-21 07:35:17 UTC  

Gentile was a student of Marx

2018-06-21 07:35:28 UTC  

He called fascism "socialism's best form"

2018-06-21 07:35:40 UTC  

Yes, fascism is non-Marxian socialism.

2018-06-21 07:35:49 UTC  

Or it can be. Not all fascism is.

2018-06-21 07:35:59 UTC  

Corporatism is hardly Marxist, and Gentile was a corporatist.

2018-06-21 07:38:06 UTC  

At any rate I think the argument that fascism in its earliest form was inspired by Marx that would be a weak argument to claim that it's the same as communism, because it clearly is not.

2018-06-21 07:38:42 UTC  

Nazis were very clearly anti-Marxist, and all fascists are anti-communist.

2018-06-21 07:39:58 UTC  

Well heres my look on things

2018-06-21 07:40:08 UTC  

I dont see far left and far right as very different

2018-06-21 07:40:26 UTC  

They are very very different, even within their own circles.

2018-06-21 07:40:30 UTC  

As theyre typically radical and unfunctional

2018-06-21 07:40:50 UTC  

To put it bluntly people who draw the conclusion that they're the same are usually ignorant.

2018-06-21 07:41:01 UTC  

They are very different

2018-06-21 07:41:05 UTC  

The far left is especially divisive.

2018-06-21 07:41:06 UTC  

but compared to other governments

2018-06-21 07:41:40 UTC  

The status quo being entrenched and the norm, being the status quo, does not make the radical left or right any more alike.

2018-06-21 07:41:56 UTC  

Basically

2018-06-21 07:42:00 UTC  

what im trying to get to

2018-06-21 07:42:06 UTC  

is communism was better than facism

2018-06-21 07:42:12 UTC  

mostly everything else is better than communism

2018-06-21 07:42:31 UTC  

Communism is better than fascism?

2018-06-21 07:42:37 UTC  

Tbh yes

2018-06-21 07:42:41 UTC  

How?

2018-06-21 07:42:51 UTC  

fascism couldnt last more than 30 years

2018-06-21 07:43:28 UTC  

fascism killed 60 million in a few years

2018-06-21 07:43:40 UTC  

Im not supporting communism on any means

2018-06-21 07:43:43 UTC  

How is that a fault of fascism? Fascism was born out of irredentism, and necessitated imperialism. That was the material condition of the era, it doesn't show any fault of fascism. Look at it for more than two seconds.

2018-06-21 07:44:03 UTC  

I don't think most serious fascists stand by fascist imperialism.

2018-06-21 07:44:12 UTC  

In many ways it's actually contradictory to fascist goals.