Message from @L0GAN
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Gentile was a student of Marx
He called fascism "socialism's best form"
Yes, fascism is non-Marxian socialism.
Or it can be. Not all fascism is.
Corporatism is hardly Marxist, and Gentile was a corporatist.
At any rate I think the argument that fascism in its earliest form was inspired by Marx that would be a weak argument to claim that it's the same as communism, because it clearly is not.
Nazis were very clearly anti-Marxist, and all fascists are anti-communist.
Well heres my look on things
I dont see far left and far right as very different
They are very very different, even within their own circles.
As theyre typically radical and unfunctional
To put it bluntly people who draw the conclusion that they're the same are usually ignorant.
They are very different
The far left is especially divisive.
but compared to other governments
The status quo being entrenched and the norm, being the status quo, does not make the radical left or right any more alike.
Basically
what im trying to get to
is communism was better than facism
Communism is better than fascism?
Tbh yes
How?
fascism couldnt last more than 30 years
fascism killed 60 million in a few years
Im not supporting communism on any means
How is that a fault of fascism? Fascism was born out of irredentism, and necessitated imperialism. That was the material condition of the era, it doesn't show any fault of fascism. Look at it for more than two seconds.
I don't think most serious fascists stand by fascist imperialism.
In many ways it's actually contradictory to fascist goals.
look at the goals of fascism
and traits of it
The only goals of fascism would have been to take back rightful Italian and German lands, and they did much more than that. Hitler and Mussolini easily could have gotten away with just that but they were both megalomaniacs and petty men who declared war on the entire world. So I don't see your point.
Ok im a rightist not a racist, they werent "rightful german and italian lands" by that point, america should belong to britain, mussolini was horrible compared to hitler in war.
Ultranationalism obviously would require the reclamation of ancestral lands in any fascist country, but that's where fascism ends. Past that it's imperialism, which can happen to anybody. Alcibiades had a pretty good speech on the expansion of empires and decadence of stagnant ones.
Hitler was genius
Mussolini
was
ehh
Why should America belong to Britain by the point of WWII?
If your point is that they reclaimed theyre land