Message from @L0GAN

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2018-06-21 08:41:40 UTC  

and pretty much all existing facist nations

2018-06-21 08:41:40 UTC  

It's a pretty bad strawman to say that just because X country did Y thing, Z trait is responsible for everything X country did.

2018-06-21 08:41:49 UTC  

Its more like

2018-06-21 08:41:50 UTC  

I can make up a million strawmans of the same sort.

2018-06-21 08:42:03 UTC  

because all countries with x did y, x causes y

2018-06-21 08:42:25 UTC  

Britain allowed millions of Bangladeshis to starve to death during WWII because they were deemed unimportant to the war effort.

2018-06-21 08:42:47 UTC  

Pinochet threw people out of helicopters and had people executed for political beliefs.

2018-06-21 08:42:57 UTC  

@Doctor Anon first sentence is amazing

2018-06-21 08:43:24 UTC  

Loads of capitalist countries have committed atrocities. America, the biggest one, has committed the most. Does that mean there's a causal relationship? Because there would have to be one using the same logic you use for fascism.

2018-06-21 08:43:59 UTC  

If you had said that certain material conditions that precede fascism necessitate expansion, that would be respectable and I might even agree with you. But you're saying that imperialism is an inherently fascist ideal which it isn't.

2018-06-21 08:43:59 UTC  

Im watching his video, one sec

2018-06-21 08:44:07 UTC  

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2018-06-21 08:44:33 UTC  

@L0GAN You need to watch more penguinz0

2018-06-21 08:44:36 UTC  

absoulute legend

2018-06-21 08:44:39 UTC  

Fascism is liberal now?

2018-06-21 08:44:46 UTC  

Its socialist...

2018-06-21 08:44:51 UTC  

^

2018-06-21 08:45:00 UTC  

You equate liberalism... to socialism???

2018-06-21 08:45:03 UTC  

🤔

2018-06-21 08:45:15 UTC  

leftism= liberalism

2018-06-21 08:45:17 UTC  

Liberalism is a stepping stone for socialism

2018-06-21 08:45:23 UTC  

leftism= socialism

2018-06-21 08:45:34 UTC  

Communists fucking hate liberals, and the only "socialists" that label themselves liberals are democratic socialists.

2018-06-21 08:45:53 UTC  

And Sorel directly criticized democratic socialists as betraying proletariat interests, namely Jaures.

2018-06-21 08:45:56 UTC  

Communists arent really socialists tbh

2018-06-21 08:46:04 UTC  

uhhhhh

2018-06-21 08:46:14 UTC  

but

2018-06-21 08:46:27 UTC  

theyre about just as socialist

2018-06-21 08:46:30 UTC  

as fascism is

2018-06-21 08:46:31 UTC  

"Communism, socialism, call it what you like, there's very little difference in the 2" -aint i right

2018-06-21 08:46:32 UTC  

if not less

2018-06-21 08:46:32 UTC  

Socialism is when the means of production are publicly owned. Communism is the ultimate manifestation of that, in a stateless society with no bourgeoisie and only proletariats.

2018-06-21 08:46:47 UTC  

Again, you really don't know what you're talking about. You're just saying words and hoping they stick.

2018-06-21 08:46:59 UTC  

And you have to insult again...

2018-06-21 08:47:13 UTC  

No, I am simply pointing out that you are not making any sense.

2018-06-21 08:47:23 UTC  

Stop being so quick to play the victim card. It'll get old quick.

2018-06-21 08:47:25 UTC  

"EEE THATS NOT REAL SOCIALISM"

2018-06-21 08:47:31 UTC  

Socialism calls for a big government

2018-06-21 08:47:43 UTC  

Communism calls for no government.

2018-06-21 08:47:55 UTC  

Socialism doesnt have to be "ALL MEANS OF PRODUCTION ARE OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT"