But I'm not a "white ethnonationalist".

Implying there's a collective white identity.

That's mostly a burger thing.

Yes but there will be a collective white identity

There is one being formed right now

Nations aren't built on skin color, and that's all white is. You don't have to look much further than the word itself.

The Nation of Islam is essentially a black power movement built on skin colour, but whatever

How is the Nation of Islam at all relevant to the actual correct usage of the term nation?

Again liberal reductionism of race to “skin colour” like anyone cares for that baby level talk

Any artificial "nation" can be created. Look how it's turned out for America.

Is Italy not a nation?

Or Germany?

Italy? A country with strong regionalism?

And Germany? A country that for centuries has been geopolitically aligned?

Are they nations or not?

One is fragmented and the other is not artificial by any means.

So in your fruitcake worldview, there is no such thing as a German nationalist.

uhhhhh no??? Where did I imply that?

How can there be nationalists for a nation that does not exist

Germany is not an artificial nation. It has a shared history, borders, and culture. That makes it a nation.

America is an artificial nation, built on shared ideals rather than a history or culture. The longer it existed the more 'natural' it became.

Italy on the other hand is pretty different from Germany. Corsica and Sicily being the outstanding examples, as well as the north-south divide.

Historically wrong about America as it was by and for whites and not abstract ideals but anywho.

Sardinia I mean.

But Corsica as well, even though not a part of Italy.

My point is that a collective white identity and white national spirit are entirely possible.

Not ideal though. Idealism is the glue that held America as a nation together, not race. It's artificial and it's fucked.

Maybe you have the vision that America started off as a white nationalist juggernaut that slaughtered its way west in the name of the glorious white race but that's not entirely correct.

Right. So you hate on America for being artificial and “fucked”, but you won’t support the opposite, which is a nation nation of ethnic Americans, for reals.

I would if America was a real nation, but if you want to play a game of a million hypotheticals you can arbitrate whatever you want.

White America is a real nation.

white america!!!

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Yes, white america is a real nation.

You say it goes deeper than skin color but in this case it really doesn't. It's a bunch of immigrants with nothing in common except skin color, lumped together and held together by the American Dream.

And funnily enough immigrants don't readily integrate, they stick to their own. Funny how that works.

Are you denying race?

Funny how Italians, Greeks, Jews, Irish, a million others formed their own communities.

I'm saying you're using it superficially.

Italians didn't integrate because America was white buddy.