Message from @Big Ounce

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2018-07-26 09:47:59 UTC  

Humans are the only ones to have consciousness as far as we can prove

2018-07-26 09:48:12 UTC  

It's up to you to prove they have it, not on me to prove they dont

2018-07-26 09:48:51 UTC  

Ok, les look at cetaceans (whales n' doliphins) real quick

2018-07-26 09:48:54 UTC  

i think sentient is the correct word you're looking for

2018-07-26 09:48:58 UTC  

not conscious

2018-07-26 09:48:59 UTC  

studies have shown they have more complex brains

2018-07-26 09:49:14 UTC  

Sentient is a better term, yea

2018-07-26 09:49:15 UTC  

so claiming humans are natrually the only smart creature with communication is false

2018-07-26 09:49:16 UTC  

Humans are the only ones to have consciousness as far as we can prove

2018-07-26 09:49:22 UTC  

since when have we proffed that

2018-07-26 09:49:53 UTC  

cetaceans have even showed emotion

2018-07-26 09:49:53 UTC  

Because we cant prove any other species has Sentience / Consciousness

2018-07-26 09:50:04 UTC  

nono

2018-07-26 09:50:08 UTC  

that humans have it

2018-07-26 09:50:08 UTC  

again i think you mean sentient buny

2018-07-26 09:52:46 UTC  

@L0GAN Their Consciousness does not encompass the knowledge of mortality and death.

2018-07-26 09:53:33 UTC  

imagine using sign language to convince a gorilla that it's gonna die one day

2018-07-26 09:53:42 UTC  

speaking of

2018-07-26 09:53:43 UTC  

@Doctor Anon We cannot be certain of that

2018-07-26 09:54:06 UTC  

ah fuck

2018-07-26 09:54:10 UTC  

onion already did a sketch

2018-07-26 09:54:19 UTC  

damnit onion

2018-07-26 09:55:08 UTC  

Many animals show what can be interpreted as grieving over the dead, but none show what can be seen as understanding that they will die and the concept of it.

2018-07-26 09:55:40 UTC  

elephants are one example

2018-07-26 09:56:36 UTC  

They know death happens, but not what it is and that they will be subject to it as well.

2018-07-26 09:56:40 UTC  

We do not know that animals dont understand death

2018-07-26 09:56:49 UTC  

We do not know they do

2018-07-26 09:57:19 UTC  

Again burden of proof is to prove they do understand it, not on me to to prove they dont

2018-07-26 09:57:30 UTC  

again even if we didn't know that animals don't understand death would still be a safe assumption

2018-07-26 09:57:30 UTC  

how is an elephant grieving over the dead different the na human grieving over the dead

2018-07-26 09:57:46 UTC  

Because the human can understand it is going to die as well

2018-07-26 09:58:24 UTC  

there is little difference between a human grieveing the dead and an elephant

2018-07-26 09:58:36 UTC  

but the real difference is that the human understands the concept of mortality

2018-07-26 09:58:40 UTC  

and the elephant doesnt

2018-07-26 09:59:02 UTC  

And humans are the only one to have religion

2018-07-26 09:59:03 UTC  

The elephant griefed over its youngs death

2018-07-26 09:59:08 UTC  

how does it nto understand mortality

2018-07-26 09:59:13 UTC  

@Doctor Anon religion is a good point that I can understand

2018-07-26 09:59:39 UTC  

elephants see death the same way they see rain

2018-07-26 09:59:44 UTC  

it's just something that happens