Message from @Doctor Anon
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From and by the Catholic Church
Jesus literally gave the apostles the authority to forgive sins.
The doctrine of Purgatory was proclaimed as a dogma of faith by Council of Florence
There is not one word in the Bible that would teach the purgatory of priests. The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sins. (Read 1st John 1:7-9; 2:1-2; John 5:24; Romans 8:1).
And that apostolic authority is handed down to priests. So Catholics confess their sins to God, through the presence of the priest, as a representative of God.
I dont believe that bishops, or the pope is a representative of God
You literally don't address anything I say. You just continue to list distortions of historical events and blatantly misinterpret Catholic teachings. Are you copying and pasting this from somewhere?
Also im not in favor that "tradition is on equal authority with the bible"
I did address some
Pope *is* a king
John 20:21 is literally Jesus telling the apostles they are representatives of Him. Priests/bishops are the successors of the apostles.
The apostles are no longer around
Currently i disagree, show me where it says Bishops are successors of the apostles
What is wrong with the idea of a king? The Bible advocates for the authority of kings as derived by God. The Pope's temporal and spiritual authority is thus derived by God.
The church is more politics than it is religion
its deluded
Its spirituality is not valid i'd argue
If so, a bunch of faggot molestors are successors of the Apostles? (to the apostle issue)
If you're actually interested
"VICARIVS FILII DEI." -- V-5, I-1; C-100, I-1; V-S, I-1; L-50, I-1; I-1; D-500, I-l — Total, 666.
Do you condemn the apostles because of the actions of Judas?
"2 I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him." How this have to do anything with apostle succession
◄ 2 Thessalonians 2:15 ►
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
You shouldn't condemn the entirety of Catholicism because of the actions of evil people within the religions.
again these 2 have nothing to do with apostle succession
Thats the evidence your link gives
"We passed onto you"
"Brothers and sisters"
It addresses everyone
Not one person to keep passing it
As far as i see, so far, the apostle succession theory is still invalid
Acts 1:21-26 New International Version (NIV)
21 Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus was living among us,22 beginning from John’s baptismA)" style="font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; vertical-align: top;"> to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witnessB)" style="font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; vertical-align: top;"> with us of his resurrection.”
23 So they nominated two men: Joseph called Barsabbas (also known as Justus) and Matthias. 24 Then they prayed,C)" style="font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; vertical-align: top;"> “Lord, you know everyone’s heart.D)" style="font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; vertical-align: top;"> Show usE)" style="font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; vertical-align: top;"> which of these two you have chosen 25 to take over this apostolic ministry, which Judas left to go where he belongs.” 26 Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles.
This is Acts 1:21-26
reading
Thessalonians is just confirming the importance of Tradition, which apostolic succession is.
The apostles were given very clear offices/positions, by Christ Himself. When there was a vacancy left by Judas, the apostles immediately appointed his successor.
"Apostolic ministry" is pretty clear and unambigous.
It makes it out to keep the 12, 12, until their death, is their any indication, which i am currently unaware of, that they continued this replacing beyond this?
The replacing was simply to keep the 12, until they all died, but i see no current evidence of this going on (in the bible) beyond.
[different topic, but still relevent -----> In 1870 Pope Pius IX proclaimed the principial of Papal Infallibility, This is a blasphemy and the sign of the antichrist predicted by St. Paul]