You cant seriously believe the current Catholic Church is actually 'pure'

Matthew 16:18 - the gates of Hell will not prevail against Christ's Church

The Catholic Church is not Christ's Church though

The leaders of the Church? Some no. The Church as an institution though is different.

Christ's Church is not a physical church in the mortal plain

The Catholic Church is the only Church that can be traced back to the apostles.

And yes, obviously it's not a physical/material location, but it is the Church that can most accurately be traced back to the Apostles and the teachings of Early Christians.

The Apostolic Church <:unequal:473954748517842954> the catholic church

Which branch of Baptist belief is the Apostolic Church? Please tell me.

None

The apostolic church is irrelevant

Do you believe that the Apostolic Church just began in 1609 with the beginning of the Baptist movement?

It's beliefs maybe not so, but it is not relevant to today, because there is nothing of it today

There are no middle men to mediate between God and Men besides one entity, which is no pope or bishop

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

The Bible literally commands us to hold to apostolic tradition that is handed down. The Catholic Church is the only Church that maintains this.

The Catholic Church does not maintain this

It is plagued with heresy and devilish practices

There is one mediator of the New Covenant!! This doesn't mean that we can't ask others to pray for us because that would be "mediating" or that Jesus didn't give the apostles the authority to forgive sin.

The Catholic Church is *far* into the great apostasy

The Catholic Church is the fallen church

Not the apostolic church

And even if you deny the great apostasy has happened

So you literally think the apostles failed and no Church maintains their tradition even though Christ sent the Holy Ghost upon His Church and actively promised that the gates of hell wouldn't prevail against it?

It *will* happen

The Church is in heaven with the apostles, what remains are their teachings

The Catholic Church is mortal not divine

And it subject to mortal flaws

The Catholic Church as an institution is divine because Christ established it. The members are flawed and mortal.

Christ did not establish the Catholic Church

Christ established the Apostolic Church

They are not the same entity

There is no direct link

The the great apostasy has been happening ever since the papacy

in the early church

The papacy literally started with St. Peter though.

In the Bible. Like he was the first pope.

It dosent mention he was "pope"

Not that im aware of anyways

It's implicit in Christ giving him the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. As much as I would like to continue this discussion, I haven't even finished praying my night prayers and it's almost 6 a.m. so I am going to get back to that, until I have to be awake in two and a half hours.

Good conversation, no ad hom.