Message from @εïз irma εïз

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2018-08-09 17:23:43 UTC  

They may hate the same things up to a certain point, but you can make that argument about any two ideologies

2018-08-09 17:24:10 UTC  

well, perhaps not every pair

2018-08-09 17:24:18 UTC  

But you can with a lot that just don't make sense

2018-08-09 17:26:16 UTC  

You're just talking about characteristics but not the underlying ideology.

2018-08-09 17:26:50 UTC  

Class collaboration is used to further the creation of an organic unified society. Social conservatism protects cultural norms and strengthens the nation for the purpose of an organic unified society.

2018-08-09 17:30:02 UTC  

Communists do the exact opposite when it comes to social norms, or at least the initially intend do, Communism is always replaced with some form of nationalism disguised as socialism, most true in China and Vietnam, even the USSR eventually became a second Russian Empire

2018-08-09 17:31:16 UTC  

They initially try to erase certain history they think is harmful to the idea of socialism

2018-08-09 17:31:22 UTC  

Marxism-Leninism is a failure in practice, in according to Marxism.

2018-08-09 17:31:28 UTC  

I don't know if Stalin is to blame for that.

2018-08-09 17:31:41 UTC  

completely unrelated, but you brought up stalin

2018-08-09 17:31:43 UTC  

Little known fact

2018-08-09 17:31:52 UTC  

After the non-aggression pact

2018-08-09 17:32:02 UTC  

and while Hitler was at war with Great Britain

2018-08-09 17:32:26 UTC  

Stalin proposed an alliance between the Soviet Union and the Axis Powers, and offered to join Hitler in his war against the British

2018-08-09 17:33:26 UTC  

Obviously it didn;t go through, but there were negotiations

2018-08-09 17:33:50 UTC  

Finland winded up being the immediate reason it did not go through, but there were other, obvious reasons.

2018-08-09 17:40:52 UTC  

The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was basically an alliance.

2018-08-09 18:18:12 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз Well, Stalin wanted to be an "official" member of the Axis powers and fight side by side with Hitler against the British, but he was rejected obviously

2018-08-09 18:21:41 UTC  

Stalin thought Britain and America were going to invade Russia again.

2018-08-09 18:21:51 UTC  

It wasn't aggressive, it was defensive.

2018-08-09 18:21:59 UTC  

I know, I'm just saying

2018-08-09 18:22:32 UTC  

It's ironic seeing antifa flying flags of the USSR around when the two almost fought side by side. Hitler was open to it, but not for a very long time.

2018-08-09 18:22:43 UTC  

He always hated the Soviet Union

2018-08-09 18:23:04 UTC  

But was willing to consider it

2018-08-09 18:23:13 UTC  

And to be fair, Stalin's demands for the alliance were pretty absurd

2018-08-09 18:23:22 UTC  

It never would have happened

2018-08-09 20:21:44 UTC  

Yo

2018-08-09 20:22:16 UTC  

hi

2018-08-09 20:47:18 UTC  

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2018-08-10 00:17:02 UTC  

Mussolini was a socialist u cunts

2018-08-10 00:17:15 UTC  

He worked for the socialist party

2018-08-10 00:17:21 UTC  

Worked in a socialist newspaper company

2018-08-10 01:05:55 UTC  

I hope this is a joke

2018-08-10 01:11:44 UTC  

>nobody ever changed their political opinions ever

2018-08-10 01:11:52 UTC  

You can only claim Mussolini is socialist if you think corporatism is socialist.

2018-08-10 01:12:08 UTC  

Obviously when we say "Mussolini is X" we're referring to when he was actually leader of Italy.

2018-08-10 01:12:25 UTC  

He was not a socialist when he was leader of Italy.

2018-08-10 01:12:44 UTC  

At best a syndicalist, and only then corrupted fascist syndicalism which is indistinguishable from corporatism.

2018-08-10 01:12:55 UTC  

tl;dr, you're an idiot.