Message from @Obungus

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2018-08-26 22:38:12 UTC  

The Civil War was about slavery to the south but didn't become an issue for the North until 1863.

2018-08-26 22:38:25 UTC  

Almost every state declared it the reason for secession.

2018-08-26 22:38:30 UTC  

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2018-08-26 22:39:25 UTC  

The move to make it a moralizing war was realpolitik on Lincoln's part. Him along with many other abolitionists believed the blacks were inferior but simply disagreed with their enslavement.

2018-08-26 22:40:07 UTC  

muh states rights is meme revisionism to turn slavery into a euphemism that distracts from itself

2018-08-26 22:55:38 UTC  

ik ik,but I thought it would be fun to see a confederate black guy

2018-08-26 22:57:26 UTC  

I think it's dumb for a black person to support the Confederacy directly.

2018-08-26 23:01:03 UTC  

it's hilarious tho because most of the time he focuses more on the South's ideals outside of the main reason it existed,which was slavery

2018-08-26 23:01:22 UTC  

Lost Cause weeb right there

2018-08-26 23:01:32 UTC  

Yeah he avoided the issue of slavery almost entirely.

2018-08-26 23:01:40 UTC  

Focused mainly on how bad the Union was it seemed like.

2018-08-26 23:04:04 UTC  

the Confederate flag is no longer aa symbol of racism

2018-08-26 23:04:07 UTC  

change my mind

2018-08-26 23:20:53 UTC  

the confederate flag is retarded, change my mind

2018-08-26 23:21:19 UTC  

the confederate flag is shit, change my mind

2018-08-26 23:21:47 UTC  

The confederate flag looks cool as h*ck

2018-08-26 23:22:11 UTC  

It's disgusting

2018-08-26 23:22:20 UTC  

It isn't though

2018-08-26 23:22:29 UTC  

That's just your authoritarian speaking

2018-08-26 23:22:41 UTC  

The design is just horrid

2018-08-26 23:22:51 UTC  

wrong

2018-08-26 23:22:54 UTC  

And it was never the official flag of the confederacy even

2018-08-26 23:23:14 UTC  

Then it wan't the confederate flag

2018-08-26 23:23:28 UTC  

It was the battle flag of Northern Virginia or something

2018-08-26 23:23:35 UTC  

The real flag is better

2018-08-26 23:24:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955220473806859/483416431837315087/Screen_Shot_2018-08-26_at_4.23.56_PM.png

2018-08-26 23:24:21 UTC  

Nice flag you got there

2018-08-26 23:24:28 UTC  

wrong one retard

2018-08-26 23:24:35 UTC  

looks like an autist with ms paint made it in 5 minutes

2018-08-26 23:58:35 UTC  

The actual Stars and Bars looked too similar to the Union flag so most of the military created their own battle flags.

2018-08-26 23:59:00 UTC  

And eventually the Stars and Bars was ignored in favor of the Virginia battle flag.

2018-08-26 23:59:38 UTC  

It definitely wasn't the only flag with that design though.

2018-08-27 00:33:01 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз My dad believes in the "muh state's rights" meme

2018-08-27 00:33:54 UTC  

And no matter what evidence I show him against it, he won't accept it as proof because it's either "on the internet, so someone made it up" or if it's in print, then "it's just revisionist propaganda"

2018-08-27 00:34:54 UTC  

Have you shown him the original documents detailing the reasons for secession?

2018-08-27 00:38:08 UTC  

I've tried to

2018-08-27 00:38:54 UTC  

But the only way I can show them to him is by finding it online, and my dad is one of those proto-boomer types that thinks anything found on the internet is a work of fabrication when it doesn't confirm what he thinks @εïз irma εïз

2018-08-27 00:39:08 UTC  

You have to kill him.

2018-08-27 00:39:48 UTC  

find the original documents in a museum

2018-08-27 00:39:51 UTC  

20 min until livestream debate

2018-08-27 00:55:22 UTC  

Some old encyclopedias may have the information or college libary