Message from @εïз irma εïз

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2018-09-03 01:25:18 UTC  

and make innovation reliant on the govt having cash

2018-09-03 01:25:56 UTC  

Protectionism is subsidizing uncompetitive industries on the global scale at expense to the consumer, which means consumers have less to reinvest in the economy as a whole.

2018-09-03 01:26:13 UTC  

There's a reason why no economist today worth his weight in salt likes protectionism.

2018-09-03 01:26:27 UTC  

Unless it's strategic it is always a bad idea long term.

2018-09-03 01:26:41 UTC  

It's not meant to be long term

2018-09-03 01:27:17 UTC  

Protectionism does not mean the short term leveraging of competitive tariffs in order to get beneficial trade deals. Trump isn't a protectionist.

2018-09-03 01:27:35 UTC  

Tariffs until we can net export and can make our businesses superior

2018-09-03 01:27:47 UTC  

Businesses "superior"?

2018-09-03 01:27:55 UTC  

A trade deficit is not a bad thing.

2018-09-03 01:28:09 UTC  

It's just a sign of an advanced service economy.

2018-09-03 01:28:21 UTC  

Why would a service economy be producing its own goods?

2018-09-03 01:28:45 UTC  

Any nation should be able to produce it's own goods

2018-09-03 01:29:05 UTC  

You're asking for something impossible and paradoxical. If you used protectionism to bolster industry and make your country self-sufficient as soon as you got rid of those tariffs the industry would immediately flee the country.

2018-09-03 01:29:20 UTC  

This is some serious low IQ stuff.

2018-09-03 01:29:59 UTC  

It's not a matter of industries being weaker, it's a matter of them being uncompetitive due to worker conditions and/or raw resource access.

2018-09-03 01:30:09 UTC  

More often than not the former in today's world.

2018-09-03 01:30:41 UTC  

Protectionism should be used in the case of unfair trade deals tho

2018-09-03 01:30:50 UTC  

Yeah, then it isn't protectionism.

2018-09-03 01:31:10 UTC  

Or where other companies are taking advantage of our companies

2018-09-03 01:31:21 UTC  

What Trump is doing is pushing for free trade with the EU and the erasure of Marshall Aid trade deals.

2018-09-03 01:31:37 UTC  

How do you take account of which companies are being taken advantage of?

2018-09-03 01:32:13 UTC  

I've bamboozled myself, i gotta do some more research

2018-09-03 01:32:54 UTC  

You should do more research on your fictional narrative of Slavic history.

2018-09-03 01:32:55 UTC  

There are some policies which are economically disadvantageous but are needed strategically or on principal though.

2018-09-03 01:33:02 UTC  
2018-09-03 01:33:28 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз Im doing it on purpose to make fun of aryan supremacists

2018-09-03 01:33:41 UTC  

Many of those here?

2018-09-03 01:33:51 UTC  

ive seen a few

2018-09-03 01:34:12 UTC  

although there are some "natsocs" who "are not aryan supremacists"

2018-09-03 01:34:41 UTC  

Evola critisized the Nazis for being too racially materialist.

2018-09-03 01:41:46 UTC  

shut up negroid

2018-09-03 02:24:08 UTC  

Libertarians are so cringey

2018-09-03 02:24:19 UTC  

And not worth entertaining

2018-09-03 02:24:38 UTC  

They are the right wing equivalent to braindead Marxists

2018-09-03 02:25:01 UTC  

Just shame them and move on

2018-09-03 02:38:50 UTC  

i honestly feel a little dirty knowing that i used to think maximum personal liberty would just somehow solve all our problems

2018-09-03 02:38:56 UTC  

it pretty clearly fucking doesn't

2018-09-03 02:39:30 UTC  

also Marxists invented libertarianism hence why all libertarians either adapt to Corporatism/Fascism like smart people or become egoists

2018-09-03 02:53:40 UTC  

@CrowGoCaw
I would argue that classical liberalism properly conceived is the extension of the divine right of kings to the individual and that it's the divinity of the true self beyond materialism that implies Natural Law as a logical consequence of experiencing reality from the focal point of consciousness. Democracy was a form of soft communism which was kept in check by classical liberalism, but which did not create the incentives necessary to maintain the classical liberal order which had a particular theological and historic basis.

2018-09-03 03:08:43 UTC  

@oscar Liberalism is an early left wing ideology to counter reactionary monarchists and oligarch republicans. Libertarianism is a marxist term before being taken by Rothbard

2018-09-03 03:09:11 UTC  

they are of two different breeds