Social programs are socialism

@Deleted User social Democrats are socialists

They will always and have always degraded into Socialists

social democrats support social programs within a capitalist system

it's not that complicated

Social programs take the capital (means of production) from the wealthy and redistribute it to the poor

It is blatant socialism

hahaha

alright hun

Social Democrats are just socialist whores cloacked in brotherly love

Involuntary redistribution of wealth is socialism any way you cut it

i'm curious about what your definition of 'extreme' is that it includes bernie sanders and excludes breitbart though

Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth, Social Democrats are the lowest form of politicians.

The fact breitbart pushes basic conservatism, while socialists like Bernie Sanders are outside the overton window.

Campodin probably unironically believes the military is socialist.

@ham addition i'm curious about what your definition of 'extreme' is that it includes Breitbart and excludes Bernie Sanders though

@εïз irma εïз no, the military is a basic and essential role of the state

Socialism =/= Redistribution of wealth

Marx and Proudhon vehemently disagreed over everybody getting the same equitable amount of wealth.

You're just in a bubble.

@εïз irma εïз where did I say the same?

You said that social programs are socialist because they redistribute wealth to the poor from the rich.

@Doctor Anon i never called breitbart extreme, i said that i personally considered them to be hard-right

The logical conclusion of that is that socialism means redistribution of wealth.

But Bernie not hard left?

Ironic

not really

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@εïз irma εïз that is not logical at all, give an argument or there is no logic

Hahahaha >Bernie is not hard left

I'm not making an argument, I'm interpreting what you said. And no, an argument is not a prerequisite for logic.

You said social programs were socialist because they redistribute wealth. Is this not what you said?

Bernie. Not hard left

What drugs are you on commie

Bernie is certainly hard left within American politics but that's not saying much considering both parties are corporate shills.

Within political philosophy as a whole he's just a left libertarian.

yeah i’ve been saying this from an international point of view

There is no "international" standard for that

i would consider bernie to be hard-left in an american context only but not compared internationally

@εïз irma εïз argument is the basis of logic

It's subjective to each country