Or if you want it legal, jack up the prices

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Doctor, you talk nonsense. Lets say I work and have 4 kids, I cant afford 5, but now I gotta move to only anal because you have banned birth control

lol

If you can't afford another kid

Don't take the risk

Fucking degenerate

I mean there's always adoption

If you don't want a flat ban, then jack up the prices of birth control

Debate on libertarians and friends happening rn feel free to join

@crippling depression shut up shill

Pills as birth control I'd flat out ban

Dont take the risk? Im not letting you take away my sexual gratification without a better argument than its degenerate.

And Jack up prices of condoms

@Omniconsumerproducts I have to say the way you are approaching this debate is wrong. Because catholic dogma has never changed and it will always be the same, however you want to do things that are pleasurable even if it goes against catholic dogma and that means you are disobeying. Now I have no idea if you are catholic or not but doing things for pleasure can be very bad because that means you have no self control nor discipline.

@Omniconsumerproducts Fuck your sexual gratification, sex is meant for reproducing, go masturbate

I dont think so, if I have sex 4 times in my life, once for each kid and thats all Im getting? I dont think so mate.

Sex's primary purpose is to reproduce

@Doctor Anon da fish said you guys would not @ everyone for my group. But he did say I could advertise my debate today

Also, I love the discussion happening here

It's secondary purpose is pleasure

Yea of course it is, added benefit is its also fun.

@Omniconsumerproducts I'm fine with married couples having sex for pleasure and using birth control

Just not unmarried couples

I can control myself to responsibly enjoy both. I dont see why the irresponsible should cause me to lose out.

The amount of sex a woman has before marriage directly coorelates with marriage faluire

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@Omniconsumerproducts I understand where you are coming from, but when you say that it really looks bad on you. You want to use your significant other for pleasure and kids. The way you talk about sex is like you only like it for pleasure

And I'm atheist, but respect some traditions of Christianity. Sex is enjoyable, its a serious business though because you can fuck up your life if you make bad mistakes.

So why not assume the morals which prevent life fuckery

Mm That's good that you think that way for an atheist @Omniconsumerproducts

isn't that the typical atheist view

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"The amount of sex a woman has before marriage directly coorelates with marriage faluire" Thats true, but its not taught youth. People should learn the facts and then if they choose to ignore them, they pay the price and serve as an example to others, as it was in the past.

what the fuck

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@Omniconsumerproducts Schools should encourage sex only in marriage

Marriage is outdated imo