@Leaf Supremacist they'll never notice

it creates a UNIVERSAL AXIOM of morality

Kant doesn't claim this as objective

knowledge of morality is not a priori

WHICH would lead us down a whole 'nother rabbithole

but try to grasp these basics first.

Alright but why is the dichotomy between objective and subjective morality incorrect?

because morality is metaphysics

no serious philosopher makes claims for objective morality

he might appeal to G-d as the foundation for his deontological system

but the system is still metaphysics built on scripture (which has been done many times during the Scholastic period)

Yeah but that doesn't explain why there isn't a dichotomy between the subjective and objective bases of morality.

There absolutely is.

there is no such dichotomy

That's why everyone but you was able to grasp the question.

:(

that's because the internet spreads bad information

I like you better when you're being a turboautist.

the greatest philosophers of Christian ethics

never claimed "objective morality"

Perhaps hours of turboautism drained your fuel cells.

they raelised the issue of morality is far more complex than that petty distinction

maybe you should actually read the Thomists

before you go spouting off this utter tripe

objective morality is unknowable and unprovable, but it exists

and utilitarianism has more in common with Kantian deontology than relativism

because utilitarians make a universalist argument much like Kant did

the important distinction is deontological/consequential

relativism is another camp entirely

that claims ethics are culturally bound

I'm afraid no one cares for your pedantism.

this is not pedantic

well, hes finally making positive claims so i am at least marginally more interested

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if you want to engage in a serious philosophical discussion with anyone who knows their way around these concepts

you have to understand them and how to apply them.

Noooooooo

@Jay1532 That's a Kantian argument

the noumenal exists but it is not accessible to us

@Deleted User get the nignog back

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