Message from @campodin
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It's about doing away with traditional values.
That's what liberalism is.
bad
Which had lead to some advancements.
Like modern medicine.
Liberalism as an ideology, however, is about removing institutional power from oppressing people from seeking their own self interest
And if you want to use a really old definition, then it's just a man born with freedom
It's a broad term and means whatever you want it to in the tone that you use it.
Which includes the freedom to be degenerate.
Yeah, but people always have that.
That's what free will is.
Would you take that away?
If I could, yes I'd remove all degeneracy
That's not even remotely feasible though
You can still discourage and punish degeneracy though
Fines for sodomy (including oral), jail for creation of porn, fine for distribution, etc.
Haha Maga, Kill All Niggers!
Can you define degeneracy, or is it just like Liberalism?
It's just whatever you deem it to be when the moment calls?
Basically it is the use of anything which is in contradiction to the telos of the thing
Paternal Consevatism: the father of autistic contemporary conservatism
Lol
People like Burke were totally misinterpreted
by corporations and the Republican Party.
he wasn’t nearly as free market especially when he saw the French Revolution
Conservatism isn’t an economic ideology - so libertarians to be will always be some sort of liberal and nothing more really.
“Conservative” economics is neoliberal economics sold as “fueling the National spirit”
American conservatives are closer to classical liberals than Burkian conservatives 100%.
- or literally wealthy bourgeoisie pockets lol
tbh in a way
I am really big on just focusing on rebuilding a conservative culture, honestly probably re romanticizing it.
rather than quarrel about the budget - it’s pretty obvious the government doing something like providing healthcare to people in some capacity is better than pretending people choose to get sick
>Basically it is the use of anything which is in contradiction to the telos of the thing
You could have just said yes, it's whatever you say it is
@Summī Imperator, 呪い殿 not at all. Telos has a very definite meaning. If you believe that something has a telos then it should be obvious what that telos is and what contradicts the telos is self evident
Degeneracy is conventionally understood as behavior or lifestyles at odds with traditionalism
Even something like brutalist architecture is often regarded as degenerate, since it spits in the face of classical forms forms of exterior design
Brutalist Architecture is not degenerate