Message from @Summī Imperator, 呪い殿

Discord ID: 488026954424123394


2018-09-08 16:36:27 UTC  

Like cuck, or soyboy.

2018-09-08 16:37:21 UTC  

What is free and equal to one is not the same as another.

2018-09-08 16:37:23 UTC  

It is what it is, I'm not complaining. I just acknowledge that it is technically wrong

2018-09-08 16:37:57 UTC  

So really the definition of a Liberal is a subjective one

2018-09-08 16:38:25 UTC  

As Liberal means you are in support of Liberty, freedom and Equality

2018-09-08 16:38:34 UTC  

And that's not the same for everyone.

2018-09-08 16:39:13 UTC  

Difficult to misuse a term that means basically anything the person using it wants it to mean.

2018-09-08 16:39:51 UTC  

If we are going to be really semantic then liberal isn't technically about equality, just freedom.

2018-09-08 16:40:22 UTC  

And the left want freedom from traditional constraint and morals

2018-09-08 16:40:27 UTC  

It's about doing away with traditional values.

2018-09-08 16:40:39 UTC  

That's what liberalism is.

2018-09-08 16:41:57 UTC  

bad

2018-09-08 16:42:10 UTC  

Which had lead to some advancements.

2018-09-08 16:42:23 UTC  

Like modern medicine.

2018-09-08 16:42:26 UTC  

Liberalism as an ideology, however, is about removing institutional power from oppressing people from seeking their own self interest

2018-09-08 16:43:32 UTC  

And if you want to use a really old definition, then it's just a man born with freedom

2018-09-08 16:44:12 UTC  

It's a broad term and means whatever you want it to in the tone that you use it.

2018-09-08 16:44:31 UTC  

Which includes the freedom to be degenerate.

2018-09-08 16:44:43 UTC  

Yeah, but people always have that.

2018-09-08 16:44:47 UTC  

That's what free will is.

2018-09-08 16:44:53 UTC  

Would you take that away?

2018-09-08 16:45:22 UTC  

If I could, yes I'd remove all degeneracy

2018-09-08 16:47:05 UTC  

That's not even remotely feasible though

2018-09-08 16:48:16 UTC  

You can still discourage and punish degeneracy though

2018-09-08 16:54:07 UTC  

Fines for sodomy (including oral), jail for creation of porn, fine for distribution, etc.

2018-09-08 17:18:25 UTC  

Haha Maga, Kill All Niggers!

2018-09-08 17:22:34 UTC  
2018-09-08 17:31:44 UTC  

Can you define degeneracy, or is it just like Liberalism?

2018-09-08 17:32:01 UTC  

It's just whatever you deem it to be when the moment calls?

2018-09-08 17:38:29 UTC  
2018-09-08 17:38:47 UTC  

Basically it is the use of anything which is in contradiction to the telos of the thing

2018-09-08 17:39:10 UTC  

Paternal Consevatism: the father of autistic contemporary conservatism

2018-09-08 17:39:14 UTC  

Lol

2018-09-08 17:39:37 UTC  

People like Burke were totally misinterpreted

2018-09-08 17:40:23 UTC  

by corporations and the Republican Party.

2018-09-08 17:40:45 UTC  

he wasn’t nearly as free market especially when he saw the French Revolution

2018-09-08 17:41:20 UTC  

Conservatism isn’t an economic ideology - so libertarians to be will always be some sort of liberal and nothing more really.

2018-09-08 17:42:15 UTC  

“Conservative” economics is neoliberal economics sold as “fueling the National spirit”

2018-09-08 17:44:07 UTC  

American conservatives are closer to classical liberals than Burkian conservatives 100%.

2018-09-08 17:44:28 UTC  

- or literally wealthy bourgeoisie pockets lol

2018-09-08 17:44:31 UTC  

tbh in a way