for each movement

and gays have made more "progress" than blacks have

Not really

on the social ladder in the oppression olympics

equal legal rights isn't much more progress

I'm sorry, but I don't think your point works

howso?

I mean, I've already explained

Me pointing out that social movements often have a long period where they aren't effective

followed by brief periods of sudden action in which a large amount of progress is made?

Equal treatment for gays wasn't a thing in the 60s/70s either, it was about the legality of sodomy

equal treatment is more recent

I mean

By all possible angles

I just don't think it works

The movement's demands increase as time goes on

ofc

but like... the "core" is what I'm discussing

for example, in the late 1700s/early 1800s

Most abolitionists would've been in favor of reparations to slave owners

By the time the civil war rolled around, well...

because the economy of the south was built on top of it (which actually made the south poorer, but w/e)

in the long run poorer... Not really at the time

I know

It became poorer as industrialization really took off... Which was a result of sharecropping, which accounts for many inequalities between African Americans and whites even to this day

"White supremacy" sounds too expensive for it to be reasonably considered

I don't know anyone who wants to genocide minorities except for some larpy teenagers I've seen on discord

Oh, please, sharecropping isn't a sufficient explanation

I know what sharecropping is, it was a essentially a long running scam

a black family agreed to work on a farm/plantation/w.e.

More, "was forced to work on a farm/plantation/whatever in order to survive"

and the family in charge would try to scam them out of money so they would stay there

Slaves had no resources.

The freedman's bureau failed miserably.

Nobody is disagreeing with you

okay?

I'm disagreeing with your wording

"agreed" makes it sound voluntary - as if only gullible saps were tricked into it

Which isn't the case

I didn't realize you thought that way about black people

nevermind, I tried to make a joke at the expense of your wording, but it didn't work