Message from @SilverLining
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well
even if you want to get technical
If you want to be incredible technical
your point doesn't really work
Abolition movements really took off late 1700s
came to fruition 1862
Also when i mean base nations upon ethno-cultural and linguistic lines i primarily meant in Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Natives of the Americas and Australasia.
Historically it has been more acceptable to support equal rights for blacks than fags
Movements for equal treatment really took off in the early 1900s...
and... well, yeah
the 60s
Doing that in North America for example is a bit harder
so ~60 years
seems fair
for each movement
and gays have made more "progress" than blacks have
Not really
on the social ladder in the oppression olympics
equal legal rights isn't much more progress
I'm sorry, but I don't think your point works
I mean, I've already explained
Me pointing out that social movements often have a long period where they aren't effective
followed by brief periods of sudden action in which a large amount of progress is made?
Equal treatment for gays wasn't a thing in the 60s/70s either, it was about the legality of sodomy
equal treatment is more recent
I mean
By all possible angles
I just don't think it works
The movement's demands increase as time goes on
ofc
but like... the "core" is what I'm discussing
for example, in the late 1700s/early 1800s
Most abolitionists would've been in favor of reparations to slave owners
By the time the civil war rolled around, well...
because the economy of the south was built on top of it (which actually made the south poorer, but w/e)
in the long run poorer... Not really at the time
I know
It became poorer as industrialization really took off... Which was a result of sharecropping, which accounts for many inequalities between African Americans and whites even to this day
"White supremacy" sounds too expensive for it to be reasonably considered
I don't know anyone who wants to genocide minorities except for some larpy teenagers I've seen on discord