Message from @SilverLining

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2018-09-25 04:07:57 UTC  

well

2018-09-25 04:07:57 UTC  

even if you want to get technical

2018-09-25 04:08:03 UTC  

If you want to be incredible technical

2018-09-25 04:08:05 UTC  

your point doesn't really work

2018-09-25 04:08:10 UTC  

Abolition movements really took off late 1700s

2018-09-25 04:08:18 UTC  

came to fruition 1862

2018-09-25 04:08:18 UTC  

Also when i mean base nations upon ethno-cultural and linguistic lines i primarily meant in Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Natives of the Americas and Australasia.

2018-09-25 04:08:40 UTC  

Historically it has been more acceptable to support equal rights for blacks than fags

2018-09-25 04:08:40 UTC  

Movements for equal treatment really took off in the early 1900s...

2018-09-25 04:08:43 UTC  

and... well, yeah

2018-09-25 04:08:44 UTC  

the 60s

2018-09-25 04:08:50 UTC  

Doing that in North America for example is a bit harder

2018-09-25 04:08:51 UTC  

so ~60 years

2018-09-25 04:08:53 UTC  

seems fair

2018-09-25 04:08:55 UTC  

for each movement

2018-09-25 04:09:00 UTC  

and gays have made more "progress" than blacks have

2018-09-25 04:09:05 UTC  

Not really

2018-09-25 04:09:09 UTC  

on the social ladder in the oppression olympics

2018-09-25 04:09:12 UTC  

equal legal rights isn't much more progress

2018-09-25 04:09:21 UTC  

I'm sorry, but I don't think your point works

2018-09-25 04:09:26 UTC  

howso?

2018-09-25 04:09:34 UTC  

I mean, I've already explained

2018-09-25 04:09:36 UTC  

Me pointing out that social movements often have a long period where they aren't effective

2018-09-25 04:09:48 UTC  

followed by brief periods of sudden action in which a large amount of progress is made?

2018-09-25 04:09:54 UTC  

Equal treatment for gays wasn't a thing in the 60s/70s either, it was about the legality of sodomy

2018-09-25 04:10:00 UTC  

equal treatment is more recent

2018-09-25 04:10:05 UTC  

I mean

2018-09-25 04:10:08 UTC  

By all possible angles

2018-09-25 04:10:13 UTC  

I just don't think it works

2018-09-25 04:10:46 UTC  

The movement's demands increase as time goes on

2018-09-25 04:10:47 UTC  

ofc

2018-09-25 04:10:54 UTC  

but like... the "core" is what I'm discussing

2018-09-25 04:11:12 UTC  

for example, in the late 1700s/early 1800s

2018-09-25 04:11:32 UTC  

Most abolitionists would've been in favor of reparations to slave owners

2018-09-25 04:11:41 UTC  

By the time the civil war rolled around, well...

2018-09-25 04:12:11 UTC  

because the economy of the south was built on top of it (which actually made the south poorer, but w/e)

2018-09-25 04:12:29 UTC  

in the long run poorer... Not really at the time

2018-09-25 04:12:35 UTC  

I know

2018-09-25 04:12:55 UTC  

It became poorer as industrialization really took off... Which was a result of sharecropping, which accounts for many inequalities between African Americans and whites even to this day

2018-09-25 04:12:56 UTC  

"White supremacy" sounds too expensive for it to be reasonably considered

2018-09-25 04:13:43 UTC  

I don't know anyone who wants to genocide minorities except for some larpy teenagers I've seen on discord