what an exquisite bait

10/10

im serious

if you still at this point like trump

youre just as bad as the libruls

i never said i liked him, i said criticize him on his actions instead of his personality

i think thats a fair request no matter who you are talking about

Oh its you

lol

only reason i dont like him is because of his actions

Which actions

serving his jewish masters and lying about everything

Kek

not even gonna open the jewish master can of worms

scared

He moved the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem

nah im just not very educated on jewish shit

Guess that makes him the ultimate kike lover

i can educate you if you want

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throw some facts my man

all ears

ill dm you the stuff

sure

Mind giving me the "stuff" too?

sure

Authority, Order and Discipline/Spirituality exist everywhere. The ideologies that pretend they don't, thus, end up making them perverse. Marx, in the end, proposed, what may essentially be, the abolition of authority. USSR was based on idea of equality of class, and thus, equality of people. Of course, in practice, it was not so.
@Enigmatic★Chromatic Similarly, Marxists revolutions are against order. Women can be man. Protests are the way to get heard. Victimization mentality is common. This is because, Communism thrives in disorder.
And lastly, giving people free stuff is not teaching them discipline.

Communism is also not pro-worker. In the end, you'd have to do rationing and to get stuff, you would have to lick the boots of authority. If that is what one is willing to do, why not just become a monarchist and a boot-licker for a king?

And finally, bankers indeed have much to gain from Communism

who are these bankers

hmmmmmm

You have a very ill informed understanding of this I would say. First Marx, and Marxists, do not advocate for "equality" that is an impossible and vague goal. The thing we advocate for is the abolition of class distinctions. Which in Marxist terms mean the relationship between workers and capitalists, or serfs and landlords. It doesn't mean authority and leaders disappear. The point in history that communism existed in a primitive form was during tribal society and in said society we can see leaders and organization existed. Marxism is neutral to 'hierarchy'

You're also pushing liberal identity politics onto Marxists. When Marxists argue in favor of class interest, not victimhood attitudes. We say, as a worker you deserve the fruits of your labor and such.

There is a lot of propaganda surrounding the USSR as the capitalists have a lot to gain from smearing it's name and claiming it was a dictatorship. Firstly much of the early USSR was dedicated to class struggle and building socialism, it was only when Stalin died and Knrushchev was voted as general secretary that what Marxists called "revisionism" happened, which was the process towards revising class struggle out of Marxism, say it was no longer necessary, and focusing on building up the forces of production as primary and all other considerations secondary. This is what lead to Deng Xiaoping's market reforms in China

Also again you need to put forth a tangible reason banker would benefit form communism was communism abolishes the bank, often bankers are... Let say... Liquidated. If you catch my drift

```“As between one country, one province and even one place and another, living conditions will always evince a certain inequality which may be reduced to a minimum but never wholly eliminated. The living conditions of Alpine dwellers will always be different from those of the plainsmen. The concept of a socialist society as a realm of equality is a one-sided French concept deriving from the old “liberty, equality, fraternity,” a concept which was justified in that, in its own time and place, it signified a phase of development, but which, like all the one-sided ideas of earlier socialist schools, ought now to be superseded, since they produce nothing but mental confusion, and more accurate ways of presenting the matter have been discovered.”```

This is a quote from Engles on the notion of equality

This is something from the transition from Utopian Socialism, that of Henri de Saint-Simon, Charles Fourier, Étienne Cabet and Robert Owen. In response to the failure of these ideas Scientific Socialism was developed, namely by Marx, however other people such as Georges Sorel also developed socialism along practical and scientific terms

This is actually a very common thing, that people don't know just how much of a philosophical science Marxism is

abolishing different classes makes everyone equal

That's nonsense

abolishing different classes in team fortress 2 would make everyone equal

if everyone was the same class

People will work different hours and thus get different pays. Even with the concept of "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." Inherently implies a difference in need. My needs and your needs are different and an equality will inherently exist

Classes in team Fortress 2 are not class in the economic sense

For example scientists, doctors, engineers and such will still exists. So will factory workers, janitors and artists