Message from @Enigmatic★Chromatic
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That is Marx's "third thing" argument
_"until the notion of human equality has already acquired the fixity of a popular prejudice"_
did you watch the video
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Marx lauds this notion and calls it precursor to Communist Revolution
The Labour Theory of Value is an extension of equality to Economics
In the second comment, he says how Industrial Revolution would bring in Communism
Again this isn't about equality, I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion
Not in the sense of making everyone "equal"
You are just saying that because Marx was not very egalitarian, he was not egalitarian. By that logic, no one supports free speech because everyone thinks threats are not ok
Actually I don't believe in freespeech because not everyone can have freespeech
But yes, Marx was not an egalitarian and that's what I am talking about
Perhaps there is a miscommunication somewhere
Ok. Do you think if someone thinks manspreading is ok, he cannot be egalitarian/
Sorry what?
I'm not sure what this has to do with egalitarianism, and to be honest I don't really care about egalitarianism
Lol, the point I am alluding to is that egalitarians do not believe everyone should be equal in all senses, either. So, Marxists have made their own definition of egalitarianism to claim that Marx and Engels were not egalitarian.
Marx and Engles actively denounced the idea, I'll retrieve the quote I used earlier
```“As between one country, one province and even one place and another, living conditions will always evince a certain inequality which may be reduced to a minimum but never wholly eliminated. The living conditions of Alpine dwellers will always be different from those of the plainsmen. The concept of a socialist society as a realm of equality is a one-sided French concept deriving from the old “liberty, equality, fraternity,” a concept which was justified in that, in its own time and place, it signified a phase of development, but which, like all the one-sided ideas of earlier socialist schools, ought now to be superseded, since they produce nothing but mental confusion, and more accurate ways of presenting the matter have been discovered.”```
He says he will supersede equality not that he is anti-equality
I know that quote
I didn't say anything about "anti-equality"
I said Marxism is not about equality, the goal of communism is not equality
One of the goals of Communism is Equality. It is not the only goal.
Perhaps this is the miscommunication
Equality in what respect exactly?
Equality in all respects as a standard egalitarian today believes.
This is objectively untrue
Can we stop with these huge messages?
Why?
I want to read them but I fucking can't
Sorry?
This is true. Can you find me one statement from Marx wherein he differed from a concept of equality, an egalitarian proposes today?
(((Egalitarianism)))
~~Heil Marx.~~
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Anyways, for example if you pay someone the same for every hour, and two people work different hours, their total pay will be unequal, of you pay someone the same amount no matter the hours, then they will be unequal in regards to their pay per hour. Absolute equality is not the goal or any goal, it is not even a possibility
I'll get a statement from critique of the gotha program which shows why I used that example