Message from @Draco

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2018-10-23 17:00:26 UTC  

Both these quotes are by Marx, wherein he declares equality to be his goal

2018-10-23 17:01:42 UTC  

Also, I think you are seeing too much of Cuck Philosophy. lol

2018-10-23 17:01:42 UTC  

The first quote I can tell you now is about the Law of Value not communism

2018-10-23 17:01:55 UTC  

That is Marx's "third thing" argument

2018-10-23 17:01:59 UTC  

_"until the notion of human equality has already acquired the fixity of a popular prejudice"_

2018-10-23 17:02:08 UTC  

did you watch the video

2018-10-23 17:02:12 UTC  

gay

2018-10-23 17:02:12 UTC  

no u

2018-10-23 17:02:20 UTC  

Marx lauds this notion and calls it precursor to Communist Revolution

2018-10-23 17:02:46 UTC  

The Labour Theory of Value is an extension of equality to Economics

2018-10-23 17:03:28 UTC  

In the second comment, he says how Industrial Revolution would bring in Communism

2018-10-23 17:04:09 UTC  

Again this isn't about equality, I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion

2018-10-23 17:04:21 UTC  

Not in the sense of making everyone "equal"

2018-10-23 17:05:09 UTC  

You are just saying that because Marx was not very egalitarian, he was not egalitarian. By that logic, no one supports free speech because everyone thinks threats are not ok

2018-10-23 17:06:12 UTC  

Actually I don't believe in freespeech because not everyone can have freespeech

2018-10-23 17:06:32 UTC  

But yes, Marx was not an egalitarian and that's what I am talking about

2018-10-23 17:06:40 UTC  

Perhaps there is a miscommunication somewhere

2018-10-23 17:08:19 UTC  

Ok. Do you think if someone thinks manspreading is ok, he cannot be egalitarian/

2018-10-23 17:09:45 UTC  

Sorry what?

2018-10-23 17:10:48 UTC  

I'm not sure what this has to do with egalitarianism, and to be honest I don't really care about egalitarianism

2018-10-23 17:11:44 UTC  

Lol, the point I am alluding to is that egalitarians do not believe everyone should be equal in all senses, either. So, Marxists have made their own definition of egalitarianism to claim that Marx and Engels were not egalitarian.

2018-10-23 17:12:30 UTC  

Marx and Engles actively denounced the idea, I'll retrieve the quote I used earlier

2018-10-23 17:12:51 UTC  

```“As between one country, one province and even one place and another, living conditions will always evince a certain inequality which may be reduced to a minimum but never wholly eliminated. The living conditions of Alpine dwellers will always be different from those of the plainsmen. The concept of a socialist society as a realm of equality is a one-sided French concept deriving from the old “liberty, equality, fraternity,” a concept which was justified in that, in its own time and place, it signified a phase of development, but which, like all the one-sided ideas of earlier socialist schools, ought now to be superseded, since they produce nothing but mental confusion, and more accurate ways of presenting the matter have been discovered.”```

2018-10-23 17:13:23 UTC  

This quote is from Engles

2018-10-23 17:13:29 UTC  

He says he will supersede equality not that he is anti-equality

2018-10-23 17:14:02 UTC  

I know that quote

2018-10-23 17:14:21 UTC  

I didn't say anything about "anti-equality"

2018-10-23 17:14:39 UTC  

I said Marxism is not about equality, the goal of communism is not equality

2018-10-23 17:14:56 UTC  

One of the goals of Communism is Equality. It is not the only goal.

2018-10-23 17:14:57 UTC  

Perhaps this is the miscommunication

2018-10-23 17:15:10 UTC  

Equality in what respect exactly?

2018-10-23 17:15:25 UTC  

Equality in all respects as a standard egalitarian today believes.

2018-10-23 17:15:40 UTC  

This is objectively untrue

2018-10-23 17:15:41 UTC  

Can we stop with these huge messages?

2018-10-23 17:15:49 UTC  

Why?

2018-10-23 17:16:00 UTC  

I want to read them but I fucking can't

2018-10-23 17:16:09 UTC  

Sorry?

2018-10-23 17:16:14 UTC  

This is true. Can you find me one statement from Marx wherein he differed from a concept of equality, an egalitarian proposes today?

2018-10-23 17:16:17 UTC  

(((Egalitarianism)))

2018-10-23 17:16:27 UTC  

~~Heil Marx.~~