Message from @PebbЛe

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2018-11-02 03:08:28 UTC  

Russian Orthodox needs to become based again

2018-11-02 03:09:01 UTC  

What is filioque btw?

2018-11-02 03:09:07 UTC  

Wiki cant explain it for shit

2018-11-02 03:09:57 UTC  

@PebbЛe Whats filioque

2018-11-02 03:10:49 UTC  

@Doctor Anon holy spirit proceeds from father and son

2018-11-02 03:11:02 UTC  

tf does that mean

2018-11-02 03:11:48 UTC  

wdym the holy spirit __proceeds__ from the father and son?

2018-11-02 03:12:10 UTC  

is above?

2018-11-02 03:13:46 UTC  

it's basically the relation of the spirit to the others of the trinity

2018-11-02 03:13:52 UTC  

right? go on

2018-11-02 03:14:09 UTC  

what does the catholic church believe about this that the Orthodox Church dosent?

2018-11-02 03:14:09 UTC  

i'll give a quote archibald hodge

2018-11-02 03:14:10 UTC  

hold on

2018-11-02 03:14:36 UTC  

`the relation which the third person sustains to the first and second, wherein by an eternal and necessary, i.e., not voluntary, act of the Father and the Son, their whole identical divine essence, without alienation, division, or change, is communicated to the Holy Ghost`

2018-11-02 03:15:04 UTC  

the person talk is about the trinity

2018-11-02 03:15:29 UTC  

scholastic thinking has it proceeding from father and son and the eastern has it proceeding from only the father

2018-11-02 03:16:37 UTC  

Im so fucking lost

2018-11-02 03:16:49 UTC  

explain it like you would to a 50 IQ brainlet

2018-11-02 03:17:20 UTC  

The holy spirit derives its power independently of the other 2?

2018-11-02 03:19:06 UTC  

in the principle of filioque, the holy spirit eternally emanates firstly from the father

2018-11-02 03:19:49 UTC  

and as father of the only Son is in one single principle the procession of the spirit

2018-11-02 03:20:15 UTC  

so father and son emanate the spirit as one instead of two joint emanations

2018-11-02 03:20:39 UTC  

rejecting filioque can fall under a couple different ideas but the eastern schools hold that it emanates from the father

2018-11-02 03:21:30 UTC  

the latin scholastic schools hold double procession

2018-11-02 03:21:33 UTC  

eastern rejects it

2018-11-02 03:21:39 UTC  

its too fucken late at night to understand a single fucking word you just said, normally maybe, not now.

Okay, my last 4 braincells will attempt to comprehend this: The holy spirit is "powered" by the Father and Son?

2018-11-02 03:21:52 UTC  

the holy spirit radiates from the father and son

2018-11-02 03:22:03 UTC  

what is the living fuck does that mean?

2018-11-02 03:22:12 UTC  

"radiates" from the father and son

2018-11-02 03:22:21 UTC  

proceeds, radiates, emanates

2018-11-02 03:22:27 UTC  

speak in 1st grade terms pebble

2018-11-02 03:22:28 UTC  

basically the source of its origin

2018-11-02 03:22:31 UTC  

is the father and son

2018-11-02 03:22:35 UTC  

redundant statement

2018-11-02 03:22:38 UTC  

the origin is the father and son

2018-11-02 03:22:58 UTC  

They are all one being in the end anyways

2018-11-02 03:23:36 UTC  

the trinity

2018-11-02 03:23:38 UTC  

three persons

2018-11-02 03:23:40 UTC  

one godhead

2018-11-02 03:23:55 UTC  

Isnt it 3 in 1 tho?

2018-11-02 03:24:01 UTC  

Its 1 person that is 3 at the same time