Both Orthodox and Catholics are directly from the Early Church

Me? Idk, im still unsure where to pledge my loyalty to

orthodox reject filioque

meaning they rejected the outcome of the early church

but

russian orthodox is not based at the moment

a supposed religious schism with the patriarchate of constantinople

with political intentions

clear secular abuse

Russian Orthodox needs to become based again

What is filioque btw?

Wiki cant explain it for shit

@PebbЛe Whats filioque

@Doctor Anon holy spirit proceeds from father and son

tf does that mean

wdym the holy spirit __proceeds__ from the father and son?

is above?

it's basically the relation of the spirit to the others of the trinity

right? go on

what does the catholic church believe about this that the Orthodox Church dosent?

i'll give a quote archibald hodge

hold on

`the relation which the third person sustains to the first and second, wherein by an eternal and necessary, i.e., not voluntary, act of the Father and the Son, their whole identical divine essence, without alienation, division, or change, is communicated to the Holy Ghost`

the person talk is about the trinity

scholastic thinking has it proceeding from father and son and the eastern has it proceeding from only the father

Im so fucking lost

explain it like you would to a 50 IQ brainlet

The holy spirit derives its power independently of the other 2?

in the principle of filioque, the holy spirit eternally emanates firstly from the father

and as father of the only Son is in one single principle the procession of the spirit

so father and son emanate the spirit as one instead of two joint emanations

rejecting filioque can fall under a couple different ideas but the eastern schools hold that it emanates from the father

the latin scholastic schools hold double procession

eastern rejects it

its too fucken late at night to understand a single fucking word you just said, normally maybe, not now.

Okay, my last 4 braincells will attempt to comprehend this: The holy spirit is "powered" by the Father and Son?

the holy spirit radiates from the father and son

what is the living fuck does that mean?

"radiates" from the father and son

proceeds, radiates, emanates

speak in 1st grade terms pebble

basically the source of its origin