they believe in distinction between God's energy and essence

this becomes polytheism

God controls the other 2 though, he is all powerful he knows their consciousness then, and can control them?

fuck i got a lot to learn

the divine persons communicate with the other two

the Father is the sole ontological principal

So God cant control the Son and Spirit?

God is the trinity

use the term Father to avoid confusion

So its 3 beings representing one?

it's three divine persons with an indivisible essence

This dosent even seem like Christianity from my pov

Can you show me a verse about them being completely separate entities?

Because my current belief is that God is whole. He isnt a nuclear of energy, he is one. The son and holy spirit *are* God and God *is* the holy spirit and the son. God is a being, not a representation.

the father, son and holy spirit are God

and yes

church history and verses coming up

or rather verses im too lazy to supply so much dogma

As im not catholic, ill take the church dogma with a grain of salt

we'll use Isaiah 43:10 and 1 Corinthians 8:4 as a clear exemplar of one God, there is no contention here by anyone

we'll use John 6:27, Romans 1:7, and 1 Peter 1:2 as divinity of the father

John 1:1-3, Hebrews 1:2, Titus 2:13, and Colossians 1:16-17 as divinity of the son

and finally Acts 5:3-4, 1 Corinthians 3:16 as divinity of the spirit

there are always more examples but these are good exemplars

I found this: “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD” Deuteronomy 6:4

yeah

the Shema does not imply that the trinity is not real

it is saying that YHVH is God

Lol why the fuck cant they just say he shape shifts lmao

Hebrews 1:2 seems to imply that the Son is not eternal, he was created by God.

Shape shifting merchant on a stick

he has spoken to us __by his Son__, whom he appointed __heir of all things__, and through __whom also he made the universe.__

Pebble, 1 Corinthians 3:16 and Hebrews 1:2 both seem to imply that the Holy Spirit and the Son are *owned* by God and that they were created by God.

They do not imply that

John 10:30 and John 17:21-22 are also good

John 10:30 implys that, yes, they are one.

One being.

Not seperate.

Yes they are an indivisible essence

but the Son could never be the Father

but they are God

The Son *is* the Father and the Father *is* the son

Thats how much absolute divinity God has

He has no logical contstraints