Message from @IV LI V S

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2018-11-25 14:26:50 UTC  

No, what I mean is this - Cultures, as they gain more wealth and prosperity became more and more feminine from masculine.
The high point of culture is when they are a mix of feminine and masculine in a good ratio. However, once cultures become civilised, they continue that feminisation and reach a point like West has today

2018-11-25 14:27:19 UTC  

ok

2018-11-25 14:27:20 UTC  

now i see

2018-11-25 14:27:25 UTC  

but

2018-11-25 14:27:52 UTC  

in my mind they reach a certain point of feminisation, before that feminisation becomes radicalised

2018-11-25 14:27:57 UTC  

eg modern feminism

2018-11-25 14:29:06 UTC  

No. Feminists were always radical. Even in 1920s they were urging women to be degenerate

2018-11-25 14:29:19 UTC  

What do you see is just a cascading effect

2018-11-25 14:30:01 UTC  

I think you misunderstand what "feminine" means in a society tandaney

2018-11-25 14:30:22 UTC  

If you think you can go back to 1960s in terms of societal policies and it will remain that way, you are mistaken

2018-11-25 14:30:34 UTC  

He's talking about how domestic and stable a society becomes as it gains dominance

2018-11-25 14:30:54 UTC  

i dont want to go back to 1960s society

2018-11-25 14:30:56 UTC  

it was flawed

2018-11-25 14:31:04 UTC  

we were already fucked in the 60s lmao

2018-11-25 14:31:05 UTC  

i want to take the good parts out of every decade

2018-11-25 14:31:09 UTC  

and mix them

2018-11-25 14:31:14 UTC  

to create a better system

2018-11-25 14:31:27 UTC  

a better culture

2018-11-25 14:31:41 UTC  

That is impossible, I would say.
Feminisation of cultures in inevitable. This is what Evola also described.

2018-11-25 14:32:16 UTC  

that's unlikely to work. Most systems that has worked historically have now been rendered obsolete by technological advances.

2018-11-25 14:32:29 UTC  

*had

2018-11-25 14:32:41 UTC  

thats why we take the good out of those systems

2018-11-25 14:32:48 UTC  

eg

2018-11-25 14:32:56 UTC  

I meant more in policy sense, like making divorce harder and criminalising or penalising adultery

2018-11-25 14:33:20 UTC  

making divorce harder will be easier with modern tech

2018-11-25 14:33:25 UTC  

like what china is doing

2018-11-25 14:33:33 UTC  

They now have a citizen system for every citizen

2018-11-25 14:33:43 UTC  

esentially the government social media for every chinese citizen

2018-11-25 14:33:51 UTC  

You don't understand. People won't just agree to it. China is a dictatorship. They can do it.

2018-11-25 14:34:05 UTC  

if the people believe it is correct then they will

2018-11-25 14:34:30 UTC  

you expect much from your people

2018-11-25 14:34:32 UTC  

They believed at one time, that it was correct. Then they didn't.

2018-11-25 14:34:35 UTC  

there are billions of people on the planet who believe divorce is wrong alongside adultery

2018-11-25 14:34:44 UTC  

Yes, and they still do it.

2018-11-25 14:35:03 UTC  

Just belief is not enough

2018-11-25 14:35:23 UTC  

the fact is that most individuals are not enthusiatic about politics or ideology, and will make decisions based on their immediate economic and social wellbeing

2018-11-25 14:35:32 UTC  

yes

2018-11-25 14:35:44 UTC  

by forcing them into certain situations

2018-11-25 14:35:50 UTC  

you can change a persons viewpoint

2018-11-25 14:35:56 UTC  

like whats happening in china

2018-11-25 14:36:04 UTC  

So, how will you force them without dictatorship?