Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2018-12-06 17:30:22 UTC  

I'm out lads

2018-12-06 17:30:28 UTC  

Resorts to ad hominem attacks when you lose a debate

2018-12-06 17:30:38 UTC  

Market economies do not allocate values to goods better than labor value does

2018-12-06 17:30:43 UTC  

Free market capitalism is not the only form of capitalism. One can have government intervention and it still be called capitalism, just not free market

2018-12-06 17:30:44 UTC  

So no it's not more efficient

2018-12-06 17:30:44 UTC  

Yes they do

2018-12-06 17:30:48 UTC  

"labour theory of value"

2018-12-06 17:30:50 UTC  

what a joke

2018-12-06 17:30:59 UTC  

@Shalopy No, theres only one form of capitalism, the free market is the definition

2018-12-06 17:31:02 UTC  

Tell me why it is a joke

2018-12-06 17:31:13 UTC  

Labour theory of value, value isn't determined on labour

2018-12-06 17:31:24 UTC  

it's determined on the value the consumer places on it

2018-12-06 17:31:34 UTC  

you can spend a day digging a hole and filling it up

2018-12-06 17:31:39 UTC  

doesn't mean it'll be worth more

2018-12-06 17:31:45 UTC  

it's an illiterate idea

2018-12-06 17:32:16 UTC  

Socialist economies are extremely inefficient, so are socialist policies

2018-12-06 17:32:20 UTC  

Capitalist economies are miles ahead

2018-12-06 17:32:23 UTC  

All empirical studies by Zechariah, Sraffa, Farjoun and Machover, Cockshott and Cotrell show that labor value clusters around market prices more accurately than production price theory

2018-12-06 17:32:24 UTC  

As shown by today and the past

2018-12-06 17:32:36 UTC  

Of course you wouldn't understand what the LTV is

2018-12-06 17:32:36 UTC  

Not atall

2018-12-06 17:32:41 UTC  

I do

2018-12-06 17:32:43 UTC  

it's just dumb

2018-12-06 17:32:44 UTC  

lol

2018-12-06 17:32:54 UTC  

Because it's completely illogical

2018-12-06 17:33:01 UTC  

Then you could understand the quantum math behind it and the difference in productive and unproductive sectors

2018-12-06 17:33:09 UTC  

I remember an explanation going around about profit, i cant remember what it was about but it did go in the face of libertarian economics to some degree

2018-12-06 17:33:09 UTC  

And explain it to me

2018-12-06 17:33:13 UTC  

It's more of the fact that it doesn't allocate resources properly

2018-12-06 17:33:25 UTC  

Making profit =/= capitalist \

2018-12-06 17:33:29 UTC  

Project Cybersyn allocated resources perfectly

2018-12-06 17:33:51 UTC  

Capitalism's primary existence is on profit

2018-12-06 17:34:02 UTC  

In Chile?

2018-12-06 17:34:08 UTC  

you do realise the socialist period of Chile fucked the economy

2018-12-06 17:34:14 UTC  

<:facepalm:487682504153628701>

2018-12-06 17:34:59 UTC  

On the contrary capitalist and CIA sabotage of markets destroyed the ability to distribute consumer goods through them and the national distribution project Cybersyn was organized for had to be used

2018-12-06 17:35:24 UTC  

Ah theres always an excuse isn't there

2018-12-06 17:35:33 UTC  

(ignores how the system is completely inefficent)

2018-12-06 17:35:55 UTC  

Repeating yourself is not very economically literate for you

2018-12-06 17:35:59 UTC  

LTV views value as something as objective instead of subjective

2018-12-06 17:36:25 UTC  

Completely a childs view of economics