Message from @ritasuma

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2018-12-07 16:30:48 UTC  

I’m a mutualist, an anarchist socialist

2018-12-07 16:30:51 UTC  

You said you’re an an com

2018-12-07 16:30:52 UTC  

they will create one to influence their society much more effectively

2018-12-07 16:30:55 UTC  

anarchist socialist

2018-12-07 16:30:55 UTC  

LOL

2018-12-07 16:30:57 UTC  

contradiction

2018-12-07 16:31:04 UTC  

You do realise socialism is when the stage exists right

2018-12-07 16:31:06 UTC  

yeah they do, things like lobbying for favourable laws

2018-12-07 16:31:10 UTC  

State

2018-12-07 16:31:11 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-07 16:31:13 UTC  

Ancom s are also socialists so I fail to see how that has any grounds

2018-12-07 16:31:17 UTC  

They want the state , the big ones @ritasuma

2018-12-07 16:31:19 UTC  

Most don’t

2018-12-07 16:31:28 UTC  

the big ones will create a state to control the society

2018-12-07 16:31:30 UTC  

Ancoms are not socialist

2018-12-07 16:31:34 UTC  

you do realize that there are winners and losers

2018-12-07 16:31:37 UTC  

No because nobody will follow them

2018-12-07 16:31:38 UTC  

Socialism isn’t when the state exists, socialism is about worker control of the MoP

2018-12-07 16:31:43 UTC  

>socialism is when the government does stuff

2018-12-07 16:31:54 UTC  

Socialism is when the MoP collectively owned by the state or workers

2018-12-07 16:31:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955220473806859/520638617039667222/socialism-is-when-the-government-does-stuff-and-e-more-23314716.png

2018-12-07 16:32:00 UTC  

It is characterised by strong state intervention

2018-12-07 16:32:03 UTC  

Yes, OR workers

2018-12-07 16:32:05 UTC  

I never said that

2018-12-07 16:32:05 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-07 16:32:07 UTC  

That OR is important

2018-12-07 16:32:10 UTC  

But it uses strong state intervention

2018-12-07 16:32:15 UTC  

That Or can exist without a state mate

2018-12-07 16:32:16 UTC  

Communism is when the state is abolished

2018-12-07 16:32:19 UTC  

That’s what anarchism is about

2018-12-07 16:32:21 UTC  

yes that would be communism

2018-12-07 16:32:21 UTC  

i am a libertarian socialist

2018-12-07 16:32:23 UTC  

Notnsocialism

2018-12-07 16:32:25 UTC  

People group based on ideology

2018-12-07 16:32:31 UTC  

Not socialism but communism

2018-12-07 16:32:33 UTC  

No ancom and mutualism vary

2018-12-07 16:32:36 UTC  

Anarcho socialist is a contradiction

2018-12-07 16:32:44 UTC  

mutualism is free market socialism in simple terms

2018-12-07 16:32:58 UTC  

socialism is using the stare and strong intervention to transition into communism

2018-12-07 16:33:06 UTC  

Ancoms have generally different views, ancoms believe in more of a collective ownership, mutualists more personal property.

2018-12-07 16:33:06 UTC  

its not
a society where the workers own the means of production, but do not redistrubute the ends of production