no

i meant manchuria

@Bogatyr Bogumir not even close

@riacan possibly

Ur right

The Sjws and liberals

Us literally dominated against Russian planes and pilots

if victory is on ratio in air fights

Who were secretly flying in Vietnam

American right wingers make me cringe

then surely germany won

It’s not air ratio

Well

since germany had the most successful air force in history

Not the stats I’m gonna give

makes me want to fire my kalashnikov

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These are the stats

USA won big time

Goals matched by the Paris peace accord too

So the USA had done its job and left

well

The democrats forced them

Few more months of fighting and a win

also i never said that soviet tech, you straw manned me there remember what I said ***"The arms were ripoffs off the american" literall the entire russian military is based on a completely different philosophy and purpose than american weapons... For example Russia has better jets, and better missiles, potentially better small firearms.***

I meant modern, not past, modern. and YOU said they were ripoffs. Russia is based on completely different goals to everything they design.

Soviet pilots and their planes were getting smacked

this is like saying sending £100bn of machinery to take on 10,000 loincloth wearing tribals is a victory

@Bogatyr Bogumir modern Russian ?

Sure

Even then it’s off

it wasn’t just farmers with Aks

They were overloaded with soviet and Chinese tech

and soviet pilots

And chinese soldiers in secret

Modern Russian tech doesn’t compete the west

Russia is atleast 20 years behind

The thing is they werent. They didnt actually have that much tech have you not seen how desperate hey were through half the war for weapons, literally making home made weapons which were obscenely common

America: how to make every loss sound like a victory, and every success of someone else actually be yours.

The don’t even have a stealth aircraft

lol