the AK however clearly isnt, the new AK12 is for that reason mimicking the waterproof idea.

and thats also true

as in?

a gun's job isn't really there to kill someone, per se

RAW kills?

wheres the stats for there

It's there to take someone out of combat

Which would explain the difference somewhat

you can't compare raw kills because theres more AK's in circulation

much more

thats more the philophy of the cartrige itself.

Nah Shen both are designed to kill

Not really, theres more AKS in circulation

much more

so now I cant compare kills but when we do it with planes its okay?

Because the most used guns are AKs

and kill ratios are different with planes and guns

air to air kills matter

but with guns you could be shooting at civilians and getting that KD up

Shieeeeet

Some kid got a gun pulled on him just now

There hasn't ever been a russian/soviet jet that has had a positive KD ratio

then you look at American planes where every fighter jet has had a positive scorecard

apart from one

literally the Iran and Iraq war with Iranians using American F-14 Tomcats and Iraqis using some soviet planes

same generation fighters

@Doctor Anon Where do you live that this happens?

>arabs
>winning wars

The F-14 Tomcat has a KD of 135-4-4

I dont think it matters what equipment they have

135 air to air kills

4 air to air shot downs

and 4 air to ground shot downs

@Bogatyr Bogumir some kids we're doing a senior service project, putting flyers around houses, some nog pulled a gun on them

Only 3 of the air to air kills are USA

the other 131 is Iran

lol

those are all on Soviet planes

even in the Vietnam war, the F-4 Phantom had a name

"the worlds leading distributor of MIG parts"

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