totally centralized system under a party like the soviets is setting yourself up for failure though

well the economy of the USSR was incredibly successful

industrialised rapidly

and great improvements in conditions

no, quite the opposite, it only grew during 1930s-40s due to great transfer of machine tools and enforced labor for mass infrastructure projects like the canal

https://voxeu.org/article/russia-s-national-income-war-and-revolution-1913-1928

https://voxeu.org/sites/default/files/image/FromApr2012/Markevichfig1.gif

meant to post just this image but i'll leave the article anyway

got that from commie_boi right?

what

no

hes someone who makes this argument often even though he know its to be missing in details

i dont know who that is

https://www.americanheritage.com/how-america-helped-build-soviet-machine

https://www.historians.org/about-aha-and-membership/aha-history-and-archives/gi-roundtable-series/pamphlets/em-13-how-shall-lend-lease-accounts-be-settled-(1945)/how-much-of-what-goods-have-we-sent-to-which-allies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#Significance_of_Lend-Lease

and this is just the 40s

https://nintil.com/old_assets/2016/03/26-4.png
as you can see here the USSR growth was better than USA

even more so during the 30s concerning the US companies selling out product

Maddison project also gives greece the same gdp as great britain

i wouldnt trust it unless they come out with a proper published article is a good journal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Sea%E2%80%93Baltic_Canal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R504_Kolyma_Highway

what about the highway

this is what i was referencing to forced labor and machine tools import

basically they just traded their human capital and land resources for imports of machine production

i don't see how

and created the infrastructure that supported their entire system through means we would deem unreasonable

how not?

read the links i posted

they built up the industrial sector through planning

they planned for imports

did you actually think they launched an industrial revolution that was purely native?

i mean sure some gulag labor was used but the vast majority would have been regular labor

their machine production was shipped from foreign countries

especially the US

the industrialization that they saw was nothing more than a product of them importing machine production, relocating labor and building mass infrastructure through immoral labor sources

the fall that they start seeing is when the source of those imports drop due to onset of the cold war

the soviet union could not support itself by native industry alone

dyno automod

youre using a banned word