Message from @Scipio

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2018-05-29 16:42:09 UTC  

When has communism ever worked

2018-05-29 16:42:30 UTC  

Good question.

2018-05-29 16:43:04 UTC  

The better question is: When has Socialism worked? And it's worked wonders in numerous countries around the globe, where living standards and overall quality of life were raised considerably thanks to the efforts of communists after seizing power.

2018-05-29 16:43:16 UTC  

Socialism - Communism

2018-05-29 16:43:20 UTC  

Are you claiming they are the same thing?

2018-05-29 16:43:33 UTC  

No, hence why I posed the better question.

2018-05-29 16:43:46 UTC  

Socialism has definently

2018-05-29 16:43:48 UTC  

not worked well.

2018-05-29 16:43:54 UTC  

In places such as Europe, so that's off the list.

2018-05-29 16:43:55 UTC  

Why arent you the socialist role then

2018-05-29 16:43:57 UTC  

My home nation, the UK,

2018-05-29 16:44:01 UTC  

is currently DYING,

2018-05-29 16:44:04 UTC  

our economy is DYING,

2018-05-29 16:44:06 UTC  

our national health service,

2018-05-29 16:44:10 UTC  

WHICH IS A SOCIALIST CREATION,

2018-05-29 16:44:13 UTC  

is LITERALLY dying,

2018-05-29 16:44:17 UTC  

due to people not paying taxes.

2018-05-29 16:44:20 UTC  

And then taking benefits,

2018-05-29 16:44:23 UTC  

ASWELL as overpopulation.

2018-05-29 16:44:25 UTC  

Really? Where in Europe has the capitalist mode of production been superseded by the socialist one thanks to the efforts of Marxian revolutionaries?

2018-05-29 16:44:51 UTC  

Which countries which are "socialist" are you talking about?

2018-05-29 16:44:54 UTC  

What you're talking about isn't socialism, it's a liberal democratic state implementing Keynesian welfarism.

2018-05-29 16:45:00 UTC  

LOL

2018-05-29 16:45:03 UTC  
2018-05-29 16:45:20 UTC  

**It's never the right blend, with Communists. If it's SO WHAT wrong, they will COMPLETELY deny it.**

2018-05-29 16:45:22 UTC  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAHA

2018-05-29 16:45:29 UTC  

**"Oh well that's not TRUEEEEE communism"**

2018-05-29 16:45:35 UTC  

That's not socialism, that's capitalism with a large social safety net.

2018-05-29 16:45:39 UTC  

**"TRUE communism has NEVER been tried before"**

2018-05-29 16:45:40 UTC  

Communism will never succeed nor will it see any tremendous success. Why? Because It relies on the state, enforcing a fixed economy and destroying any dynamic aspects it had, and hypocrisy. It relies on the state to control and manage the economy, while, at the same time, they wish to eventually abolish the state to achieve anarcho-communism, which is the general goal of most communists. As long as the state controls the economy, the state will always be relavent, and high stage communism will never be achieved. Ever. Furthermore, it relies on the planned economy. The planned economy eliminates the necessity of a dynamic economy, for that of a fixed economy. Fixed economies are easily broken, dynamic economies always fluctuate, but are almost impossible to bring down unless an outside power causes it, or if gradually forces itself to stagnate, both of which, rarely happen. Lastly, many communists are hypocrites. They blame the upper class for all of their suffering, and constantly preach about their economic liberty, yet are willing to sacrifice their individuality in return for it. If you are willing to sacrifice your freedom for security, then you deserve neither, as Abraham Lincoln would say. Same goes for your individual freedom for economic freedom.

2018-05-29 16:45:45 UTC  

the fucking holodomor was in ukraine

2018-05-29 16:45:57 UTC  

Aye.

2018-05-29 16:46:08 UTC  

so why would the population of russia change

2018-05-29 16:46:16 UTC  

when ukraine was independent in 1922

2018-05-29 16:46:18 UTC  

😛

2018-05-29 16:46:29 UTC  

**Gulags**

2018-05-29 16:46:33 UTC  

**Yeet**

2018-05-29 16:46:38 UTC  

are all commies this low iq

2018-05-29 16:46:42 UTC  

Yes.

2018-05-29 16:46:44 UTC  

even the radical centrist is smarter

2018-05-29 16:46:48 UTC  

Because to believe in Communism,