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**"Oh well that's not TRUEEEEE communism"**

That's not socialism, that's capitalism with a large social safety net.

**"TRUE communism has NEVER been tried before"**

Communism will never succeed nor will it see any tremendous success. Why? Because It relies on the state, enforcing a fixed economy and destroying any dynamic aspects it had, and hypocrisy. It relies on the state to control and manage the economy, while, at the same time, they wish to eventually abolish the state to achieve anarcho-communism, which is the general goal of most communists. As long as the state controls the economy, the state will always be relavent, and high stage communism will never be achieved. Ever. Furthermore, it relies on the planned economy. The planned economy eliminates the necessity of a dynamic economy, for that of a fixed economy. Fixed economies are easily broken, dynamic economies always fluctuate, but are almost impossible to bring down unless an outside power causes it, or if gradually forces itself to stagnate, both of which, rarely happen. Lastly, many communists are hypocrites. They blame the upper class for all of their suffering, and constantly preach about their economic liberty, yet are willing to sacrifice their individuality in return for it. If you are willing to sacrifice your freedom for security, then you deserve neither, as Abraham Lincoln would say. Same goes for your individual freedom for economic freedom.

the fucking holodomor was in ukraine

Aye.

so why would the population of russia change

when ukraine was independent in 1922

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**Gulags**

**Yeet**

are all commies this low iq

Yes.

even the radical centrist is smarter

Because to believe in Communism,

you need to be able to accept ANYTHING anyone says to you.

Aka: Being easily manipulated.

This is how they grow easily,

but never really work,

because half the term,

the Communists don't even know what their ideology is.

LOL

"Well I'm a communist, but I can't EXPLAINNNN communism"

@Moose You clearly cannot understand context. When did I say the famine wasn't in Ukraine?

I can explain communism, you obviously can't. Hence why you believe countries in the EU have implemented socialism.

Whot..

When did I say they did?

I said that Socialism doesn't work in Europe, and ruled Europe off.

I never said

"SPECIFICALLY COUNTRIES IN THE EU ARE SOCIALIST"

What, are you talking about when I said a PUBLIC SERVICE is a Socialist creation? Which it fucking is.

That's different to the WHOLE NATION being socialist.

How could you know it doesn't work if it hasn't been implemented? It's obvious that you think there have been or there presently are socialist nations in Europe.

Social Democrats aren't socialist nor capitalist, friend. It's a common misconception that they are however.

Yall should go to the debate channel

@Eastern Roman Empire Exactly, they aren't socialist. But they are capitalist.

HEY MOVE DIS SHIT TO DEBATE

I'm not saying that a political system in the EU is socialist.

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