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a 'mixed economy' still has a majority of the industry and trade controlled by capitalists therefore is a capitalist system

2018-05-31 18:56:52 UTC  

is a spoon a spoon or is a spoon a table?

2018-05-31 18:57:19 UTC  

"controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state." If it does not meet this definition, it is not capitalism. The use of lobbyists and using bureacracy to bash novice businesses is a tool of corporatism and bureacracy, by creating government regulations, that kills small businesses, not free choice of the people.

this doesn't matter

literally

capitalism becomes corporatism

because corporatism serves the profit motive

better than whatever idealisitic nonsense of 'capitalism' you're talking about

corporatism helps create monopolies that create larger profits for the capitalists

2018-05-31 18:58:26 UTC  

Karde i love you

secondly

capitalists still control

the industry

and means of production

so it is still capitalism

corporatism is still capitalism

2018-05-31 18:58:52 UTC  

Self interest doesn't immediately devolve into greed. Self interest is the better of self, greed is the destruction of others and lack of ethics in order to gain for one self.

why do you think corporatism happens lol

are there no rational reasons behind it?

@Deleted User love u too ❤

2018-05-31 19:00:25 UTC  

@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 A few bad apples don't ruin the bunch. Was it not the efforts of Carnegie, JP Morgan, Vanderbuilt and other wealthy individuals that led to the development of the west and the advancement of the Industrial Revolution in America?

They used corporatism

STANDARD OIL

IS LITERALLY

THE BIGGEST

MONOPOLY

IN THE WORLD'S HISTORY

2018-05-31 19:00:57 UTC  

You've never heard of Southern Bell, have you?

🤔 standard oil was even worse

Furthermore that's when capitalism begun

capitalism evolved into corporatism

because it serves the profit motive better

than that earlier form of capitalism

but the result is also a form of capitalism that hemorrhage itself

serving the profit motive in the end destroys competition

it encourages monopoly

it encourages extending copyright law to quelll the fear of innovation stealing your monopoly

that is a use of the state by capitalists for their own interest

2018-05-31 19:03:34 UTC  

Karde, you don't know what Southern Bell is, apparently. You couldn't make a call in the United States between 1960 to 1984 without paying a fee to Ma Bell.

standard oil crushed every other oil company

by flooding the market