Message from @Scipio

Discord ID: 451772177134387211


2018-05-31 15:37:35 UTC  

it's not as centralized as the Catholic church

2018-05-31 15:37:50 UTC  

even if national Churches was the biggest mistake the Vatican ever made

2018-05-31 15:37:58 UTC  

because it gave roots for Nationalist Catholicism

2018-05-31 15:38:23 UTC  

So what do you guys think about this;

2018-05-31 15:38:30 UTC  

and that's why we're stuck with reactionary churches in europe

2018-05-31 15:38:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450683222653796353/451771494624919552/2A5D1AD900000578-0-image-a-1_1436463703868.jpg

2018-05-31 15:38:43 UTC  

MY FAV PIC

2018-05-31 15:38:46 UTC  

it's so great

2018-05-31 15:38:51 UTC  

Francis is like "hell yea"

2018-05-31 15:38:51 UTC  

YES.

2018-05-31 15:38:58 UTC  

I don't know the name of the song to "A S S A D W A V E" So I keep playing it back and forth.

2018-05-31 15:39:00 UTC  

cathbol gang unite

2018-05-31 15:39:32 UTC  

Some Catholics claim that the Orthodox split off from the Catholic Church and Orthodox say the vice versa

2018-05-31 15:39:42 UTC  

where do you guys stand on that?

2018-05-31 15:40:17 UTC  

Do you know why they split?

2018-05-31 15:40:28 UTC  

It's FUCKING TINY compared to the Protestant reformation.

2018-05-31 15:41:11 UTC  

One reason,

2018-05-31 15:41:15 UTC  

was what type of bread should be used,

2018-05-31 15:41:19 UTC  

for communion.

2018-05-31 15:41:20 UTC  

._.

2018-05-31 15:41:30 UTC  

The other was the question of celibacy for priests.

2018-05-31 15:41:37 UTC  

In the Catholic Church, you have to be celibate.

2018-05-31 15:41:43 UTC  

In the Orthodox church, you can be married and have kids.

2018-05-31 15:41:44 UTC  

._.

2018-05-31 15:41:46 UTC  

also the difference between a platonist theology or aristotelician

2018-05-31 15:42:00 UTC  

ORthodoxs are platonicians where Catholics are Aristotelicians

2018-05-31 15:42:11 UTC  

that's why Orthodox rely on icons

2018-05-31 15:42:31 UTC  

and pictures so much

2018-05-31 15:47:48 UTC  

i mean the pope is an icon of catholicism i’d say

2018-05-31 15:47:57 UTC  

and they’re quite reliant on him

2018-05-31 15:49:09 UTC  

Catholics, as in referring to the ideology, are not Aristotelicians by any stretch of the imagination, Galileo's head rolled because the one and only Aristotelician ideal that the Catholic Church supported (all others were rejected) was the geocentric model and Galileo threatened that. The Church as a whole didn't apologize for doing this until 1996.

2018-05-31 15:50:13 UTC  

They are heavily reliant on dogma, not Aristotelician ideals.

2018-05-31 15:50:49 UTC  
2018-05-31 16:01:39 UTC  

Thomism dude

2018-05-31 16:01:46 UTC  

look it up

2018-05-31 16:01:52 UTC  

it's like the defining catholic ideology of the renaissance

2018-05-31 16:02:11 UTC  

it's litteraly the most aristotelician philosopher since aristotle

2018-05-31 16:06:10 UTC  

also Boece

2018-05-31 16:08:10 UTC  

Thomism led to the strengthening and rebranding of the Catholic church and Calvinism led to the strengthening and defining of the Protestant movement. A passage from Aquineas, "We do not perceive by an immediate intuition that God exists, nor do we prove it a priori. But we do prove it a posteriori, i.e., from the things that have been created, following an argument from the effects to the cause" paraphrased down to, "God exists because nothing here would be here without God." That is dogmatic

2018-05-31 16:09:43 UTC  

actually read the summa theologica