until it happened

"Marx said"

stopped reading there

The thing is capitalism worked

Based

Marx said this because he was observing history

Socialism worked even better

capitalism *works now* but it failed half a dozen times before it arose from feudalistic society

capitalism doesn't work

that's the point

you're reading everything from a perspective of hindsight

without imagining being in a feudalistic society

Why would I need to imagine being in a feudalistic society?

Rapid industrialisation in the USSR, the most bitter economic crisis in the West

tell me did the serfs of the 1600s imagine that in a hundred years a new socioeconomic system such as capitalism would exist?

They didn’t know because they ideas wasn’t about yet

but serfdom is capitalism

according to @Advocatus Diaboli

in fact there were failures to establish this 'capitalist system' in the 1600s i.e the failure of the first english capitalist system

nobody in communism can agree on definitions

the glorious revolution

did not progress

the UK

into capitalism

imagine that communism worked 😂

so it was a failure of capitalism to arise from feudalistic society

@Moose that's outside the realm of possibility

using that information at the time would you think

"geez capitalism is inevitable!"

Perhaps not inevitable no, but I would see it as a possible system that seems to be growing in popularity

nobody here except for you is saying capitalism is inevitable

well i'm illustrating a point the failure of a system to arise in some time period does not mean it will **never arise**

capitalism was one possible reaction to feudalism

Hayek would disagree that it was just a reaction

but the only source of correctness is marx

the man that actually didnt have a background in economics

>engels was a businessman and worked with marx

lolwut

lol

wut

businessman =/= economist