Message from @Adoring Fan
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marx said that there will still be class struggle in the socialist mode of production and counter-revolutionary elements who will try to fight against the transition of the system
Imagine like how feudalistic societies did not all suddenly change into capitalist democratic societies but eventually there were ones that succeded
China, two
Cuba, three
Cuba
Venezuela
Vietnam, 4
Vietnam
Venezuela isn't socialist and has never been
oh it only failed half a dozen times and only half a dozen hundred million died
who cares
People fought against the transition of feudalism -> capitalism
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until it happened
"Marx said"
stopped reading there
The thing is capitalism worked
Based
Marx said this because he was observing history
Socialism worked even better
capitalism *works now* but it failed half a dozen times before it arose from feudalistic society
that's the point
you're reading everything from a perspective of hindsight
without imagining being in a feudalistic society
Why would I need to imagine being in a feudalistic society?
Rapid industrialisation in the USSR, the most bitter economic crisis in the West
tell me did the serfs of the 1600s imagine that in a hundred years a new socioeconomic system such as capitalism would exist?
They didn’t know because they ideas wasn’t about yet
but serfdom is capitalism
according to @Advocatus Diaboli
in fact there were failures to establish this 'capitalist system' in the 1600s i.e the failure of the first english capitalist system
nobody in communism can agree on definitions
the glorious revolution
did not progress
the UK
into capitalism
imagine that communism worked 😂
so it was a failure of capitalism to arise from feudalistic society
@Moose that's outside the realm of possibility
using that information at the time would you think
"geez capitalism is inevitable!"