>surplus value

Which leads me to believe this logic is invalid.

The average CEO makes roughly 200 times the wage of an average employee, by adding 0 times the value. When you have a board of directors making decisions regarding executive pay, funded largely through options and amounting to a CEO-to-Worker pay ratio of something in the range of 347-to-1, you know there's a problem.

Just because some people become rich under capitalism does not mean they do not extract surplus value

Also hang on a second

How does one get rich?

The inheritance argument doesn't work either, as we previously established 7/10 families lose their inheritance money by the second generation.

Then we should get rid of government, as the government does nothing good for us, and it has been *undoubtably* proven that in government, no one can rise up and become president. Oh, but whats that? Once we get rid of government everything goes wrong? Who wouldve thought???

Karde is inconsistent in his argument about how one becomes a CEO.

He first answers that a future CEO climbed the corporate ladder, while he later says it's impossible to move up the ladder in capitalism.

Inconsistancy ruins your debate

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But moving from say petite bourgeoise to say bourgeoisie is not the same as proleteriat to bourgeoisie

How does one become a CEO?

But what comes before petite bourgeoisie?

Your argument is inconsistent, I don't believe I have a straight answer yet.

>believeing capitalism has high social mobility

Doubt

Define social mobility.

Um

You don't know what that means?

Social mobility has been destroyed in capitalism by neoliberalism the rich are literally making it impossible for some to climb this ladder.

No, I am asking what your definition of social mobility is.

Define social mobility.

It's not really an ambigous word

tbh commies have dumb definitions for words so it's reasonable to ask

And just as before, Karde is inconsistent in his argument.

Tbh mitch doesnt science

SEVERAL PEOPLE ARE TYPING

Yes

He first states that one becomes a CEO by climbing a ladder, then later states that it's impossible to climb the ladder.

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Which is it?

‘can we all become capitalists’?

Do people actually believe everyone can be a capitalist?

A major and definitive aspect of capitalism is the gross lack of "equality of opportunity". Contrary to many cuckservative and libertardian claims, the system does not "favor the brave," many of whom are unable to make a fortune even though they work hard and aren't averse to taking risks in order to get the job done.

Follow the logic and the reasons for inequality and poverty and the inevitable outcome is that capitalism requires winners and losers so that a few continue to accumulate capital.

It's impossible to climb the ladder for the majority of thr proletariat

How does one become a CEO?