Message from @fen

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State capitalism is where the state collaborates with capitalists to further their goals.

2018-06-02 23:25:27 UTC  

The second the state intervenes, it is by definition no longer capitalism.

2018-06-02 23:25:36 UTC  

Thats not capitalism dude

2018-06-02 23:25:39 UTC  

its something else

2018-06-02 23:25:44 UTC  

we are arguing semantics here

2018-06-02 23:25:46 UTC  

T_T Capitalism can be authoritarian

2018-06-02 23:25:51 UTC  

^

It is capitalism as the majority of the means of production are still in the hands of the capitalists

2018-06-02 23:25:56 UTC  

Heard of Pinochet?

They just use the state as their tool

2018-06-02 23:26:14 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450683222653796353/452613946474496030/unknown.png

2018-06-02 23:26:16 UTC  

capitalism is absent of state coercion or control

2018-06-02 23:26:22 UTC  

*If it is controlled by the state, it is not capitalism.*

2018-06-02 23:26:22 UTC  

I don't know if you read that

2018-06-02 23:26:33 UTC  

semantics arguments to co-opt ideologies together to "prove" something is bad by association
lmao

The industry is controlled majoritly by capitalists

Therefore is capitalism

2018-06-02 23:26:46 UTC  

@karbon I know right?

2018-06-02 23:26:51 UTC  

State Capitalism - (Laborers work for state owner, State Owned Commercial Property)

2018-06-02 23:26:51 UTC  

thats a ad logicum falacy

2018-06-02 23:27:07 UTC  

Oranges are round and apples are rounded therefore your mom is gay

2018-06-02 23:27:09 UTC  

gotcha

2018-06-02 23:27:10 UTC  

Gotta love communist support.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450683222653796353/452614183322910730/unknown.png

2018-06-02 23:27:15 UTC  

@karbon There is a reason why I hate the Right-Capitalists and Left-Socialists.

2018-06-02 23:27:31 UTC  

**MFW HALF OF THE SECOND PLACE IS STILL MORE THAN 3RD'S TOTAL**

Just because they use the state to further their goals doesnt mean all of a sudden the majority of industry isnt private property

2018-06-02 23:28:02 UTC  

Fascism is private or nationalized dumb ass.

2018-06-02 23:28:14 UTC  

What's National Syndcalism again?

2018-06-02 23:28:18 UTC  

<.<

2018-06-02 23:28:21 UTC  

gay

2018-06-02 23:28:24 UTC  

that's what it is

2018-06-02 23:28:28 UTC  

^

2018-06-02 23:28:43 UTC  

**any syndie scum is homosexual**

2018-06-02 23:28:53 UTC  

^

2018-06-02 23:28:58 UTC  

any ideology that hasn't been tried yet but is praised as the path to utopia has as much merit as anarcho transhumanism

2018-06-02 23:28:58 UTC  

**D I R E C T R U L E F R O M V I E N N A**

2018-06-02 23:29:03 UTC  

down with the traitor

2018-06-02 23:29:04 UTC  

You guys forgot FLAGALISM

2018-06-02 23:29:06 UTC  

**E V E R Y M A N A K I N G**

2018-06-02 23:29:07 UTC  

up with the star

2018-06-02 23:29:10 UTC  

I prefer State Monopoly Capitalism, which entails an economy where monopolistic or oligopolistic business entities are safeguarded by state intervention. This I believe to be the final stage of capitalisms development.