"State interventionism is capitalism because the state is controlled by capitalists"

mfw capitalism is inherently minimal government intervention

are you allowed to keep your car without paying taxes on it?

You can have a private properity without a free market.

T_T

are you allowed to not pay taxes on your private property?

The state is a tool of capitalists to further goals hence political corruption

It's about who's in charge of the system.

did you ask for the state services?

>Le Right-Wing Libertarian ^

did you sign a contract asking for the protection of an army?

@Perpetual Moral Imbalance yes, When the state subsumes the economy and suppresses all capitalists, it begins to act as a giant capitalist organization. This is state capitalism because the state is the only (or by far the largest) capitalist.

@fen "That's not REAL capitalism, that's just "crony" capitalism". No, it's really-existing-Capitalism. "Crony Capitalism" is just another form of capitalism, which has, like any system, evolved.

It's called state capitalism

Capitalism became crony as it serves the profit motive best.

I see the state welfare as a theft of labor for forcing our taxes on minorities that are fully capable of working.

**State capitalism is an oxymoron.**

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BY OWNERS, RATHER THAN BY THE STATE

DID YOU READ THAT?

@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 That's when most businesses figure out they can make more money if they colaborate with eachother instead of workers.

State capitalism is where the state collaborates with capitalists to further their goals.

The second the state intervenes, it is by definition no longer capitalism.

Thats not capitalism dude

its something else

we are arguing semantics here

T_T Capitalism can be authoritarian

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It is capitalism as the majority of the means of production are still in the hands of the capitalists

Heard of Pinochet?

They just use the state as their tool

capitalism is absent of state coercion or control

*If it is controlled by the state, it is not capitalism.*

I don't know if you read that

semantics arguments to co-opt ideologies together to "prove" something is bad by association
lmao

The industry is controlled majoritly by capitalists

Therefore is capitalism

@karbon I know right?