Message from @Perpetual Moral Imbalance

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2018-05-30 16:18:21 UTC  

yes

2018-05-30 16:18:28 UTC  

finally, someone who understands

2018-05-30 16:18:33 UTC  

syndicalists want to see the world burn

ok no but MLMs sometimes reject historical materialism

they legit believe you can go from feudalism to socialism (some of them)

2018-05-30 16:19:24 UTC  

that’s an interesting thought

2018-05-30 16:19:30 UTC  

though a stupid one

2018-05-30 16:19:55 UTC  

feudal vassals would never agree to turn their power over to a central government

2018-05-30 16:20:35 UTC  

and due to the sheer number of vassals in feudal society, the king/emperor would effortlessly be overthrown

ok i should be specific

China was a feudalistic society (had lots of peasent) with capitalist elements (there was an urban population)

so they believe you can just transform *that* straight to socialism

2018-05-30 16:21:10 UTC  

Didn't eduard limonov suck off a dude for a hotdog?

when marx was like "SoCiALisM iS BoRN WiTh tHe bIrTHmArKS Of CapiTlaIsm."

2018-05-30 16:21:30 UTC  

european feudalism would be a **hell no**

2018-05-30 16:21:32 UTC  

tbh Hotdogs are good

2018-05-30 16:21:46 UTC  

not good enough to suck off a dude

2018-05-30 16:21:58 UTC  

idk, depends on the hotdog

2018-05-30 16:22:08 UTC  

That hotdog gotta be like 👌🏿

2018-05-30 16:22:12 UTC  

all about those feudal rights

2018-05-30 16:22:56 UTC  

i see feudal society not as a pyramid, but instead quite simply

2018-05-30 16:23:34 UTC  

“ah yes, you have your liege, a few vassals, maybe a bishop or two, and literally everybody else is a peasant”

@Perpetual Moral Imbalance history is about developing the productive forces, capitalism creates an industrial base but doesn't resolve the contradiction between the capitalist and the workers so revolution incurs. Feudalism there is not a 'capitalist' nor really 'workers' but the 'aristocracy/lords' and the 'peasantry' that's why MLM doesn't make sense when they want to take a mostly feudal country and turn it straight into socialism.

2018-05-30 16:24:16 UTC  

yes feudalism runs on noble vassals

so what ends up happening is that most MLMs either argue that chinese nationalist phase like 1912 to 1949 was enough 'capitalistic development'

2018-05-30 16:24:27 UTC  

and their assorted tiers of authority

when the communist revolution was led by peasantry and not the 'vanguard' so literally counter to what marx said

the other argument is that Mao resolved this 'feudalist' problem by implementing new-democracy

which i also disagree with because china's economy remained heavily decentralized and not really 'socialist' at the end of it

not enough c e n t r a l p l a n n i n g

2018-05-30 17:05:35 UTC  

Are u guys ruckas nuckas for life?

2018-05-30 17:07:03 UTC  

stfu chad

2018-05-30 17:07:53 UTC  

>Chad

2018-05-30 17:10:32 UTC  

lmao

2018-05-30 17:10:47 UTC  

>Being a Libertarian

2018-05-30 17:11:09 UTC  

>Having non-latin characters in your name

2018-05-30 17:11:16 UTC  

>Not being a Libertarian

2018-05-30 17:17:56 UTC  

Lmao why should i?

2018-05-30 17:18:06 UTC  

>being a conservative

2018-05-30 17:18:24 UTC  

>not conserving anything other than a shitty status quo

2018-05-30 17:18:35 UTC  

got em