Message from @Adoring Fan

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2018-05-30 18:13:00 UTC  

It is perfectly acceptable to consider countries such as Sweden or Germany as being "socialistic" without them having seized the means of production. Prussian socialism, for instance, existed prior to Marx. While, ironically, Marx would consider this system to be an embodiment of capitalism.

2018-05-30 18:13:45 UTC  

Yet more evidence that the eternal Marxist does nothing but subvert meanings and definitions to fit his understanding of the world, vehemently rejecting reality on a regular basis for the sake of furthering his agenda.

2018-05-30 18:14:01 UTC  

It is textbook post-modernism

2018-05-30 18:14:16 UTC  

A nation cannot exist as a whole without some form of capitalistic economic values.

2018-05-30 18:14:49 UTC  

right but controled capitalism > out-of-control capitalism

2018-05-30 18:15:05 UTC  

Out of control capitalism is unrealistic

2018-05-30 18:15:11 UTC  

there has never in the history of the world been either a completely free market, nor a total rule of the proletariat.

2018-05-30 18:15:20 UTC  

yis but im talking state controled capitalsim

2018-05-30 18:15:31 UTC  

the no true scotsman fallacy runs so widely within both the groups of ancaps and communists.

2018-05-30 18:15:35 UTC  

where the state is working in the best interests for the people

2018-05-30 18:15:40 UTC  

and both of them make as little sense as the other

2018-05-30 18:15:54 UTC  

State controlled capitalism would be ideal. With the right means.

2018-05-30 18:16:04 UTC  

with the right state

2018-05-30 18:16:11 UTC  

or the right people rather

2018-05-30 18:16:21 UTC  

so no jews workig against the white mans interesting for the west for example

2018-05-30 18:16:39 UTC  

All of which boil down to how much power and authority is trusted upon certain individuals

2018-05-30 18:17:12 UTC  

national socialism is the ideal

2018-05-30 18:17:34 UTC  

speaking of jews

2018-05-30 18:17:47 UTC  

it is amazing how communists try to suggest that marx was an anti-semite

2018-05-30 18:17:55 UTC  

because of his "On the Jewish Question"

2018-05-30 18:18:10 UTC  

he was from a jewish family if im not mistaken

2018-05-30 18:18:10 UTC  

I don’t believe socialism would be able to sustain itself without the means of globalization. While globalization is also its downfall. Socialism is a paradox

2018-05-30 18:18:13 UTC  

failing brilliantly to realise Marx was merely giving jews a formula on how to control the goy

2018-05-30 18:18:40 UTC  

@S_5_fifstee national socialism =/= marxist socialism. It was very much sustainable

2018-05-30 18:18:50 UTC  

^

2018-05-30 18:18:54 UTC  

One example of successful sustainment?

2018-05-30 18:19:03 UTC  

Germany

2018-05-30 18:19:07 UTC  

the thrid

2018-05-30 18:19:12 UTC  

Lol that’s the example of success?

2018-05-30 18:19:25 UTC  

it got far

2018-05-30 18:19:26 UTC  

Germany had an extremely stable economy. The argument that the economy failed because Germany lost the war is a dumbfounded one

2018-05-30 18:19:29 UTC  

it was those guys vs the world

2018-05-30 18:19:31 UTC  

Not far enough 😂

2018-05-30 18:19:40 UTC  

It is akin to saying the American economy would fail, if the entire world nuked it

2018-05-30 18:19:56 UTC  

Just because you lose a war doesn't mean the system of Government was bad...

2018-05-30 18:20:07 UTC  

It wasn't the system that made them lose

2018-05-30 18:20:20 UTC  

Germany had a pretty good economy and goof birth rate

2018-05-30 18:20:25 UTC  

I don’t believe it failed because Germany lost the war in its entirety. Also because a system like that can only support itself if the people are all on the same page. One change of thought from one generation to the next and it’s all over

2018-05-30 18:20:43 UTC  

it was only at the end of the war, when they'd been all worned out, that people in the camps started starving