Message from @GucciToiletSalesman
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Maybe you should cease misrepresenting me. Post-modernism in your use was manipulated subjectivity. I.e.
you used subjective definitions to your advantage in order to subvert objective historically accepted definitions of socialism/capitalism
thus defending marxism
Oh really? Lemme guess, it was manipulated subjectivity to the 9th power thereby necessitating the historical subversion of objective definitionality regarding the theoretical application of socialism in relation to it's linear progression from capitalism? Anymore bullshit red herrings you want to cook up? Maybe you can add even more nonsense to the next one. Gives it more flavor.
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@Deleted User in no way was this a red herring.
You really are a Master Chef. Jordan Ramsayson would be proud.
your word masturbation of marx's theory of the stages of history is impressive, it really is, but that's all it is at the end of the day - word masturbation
marx's theory is nonsensical, subjective bullshit. And postmodernism only enables such bullshit by denying objective truths. By denying objective truths, one can easily delve into the realm of defining socialism/communism/capitalism/power struggles in any way one desires.
Even if I were theoretical masturbator, at least I'm not pleasuring myself to simulated situations through a medium of abstraction which has absolutely no bearing on concrete reality and the material relations therein.
marx disregarded both past and contemporary definitions of economic systems, to enhance his own vision. As a result, his followers only see his definition, an altering of the previously agreed upon meanings of terms such as capitalism and socialism.
like I said, word masturbation. You jacking yourself off to the vast array of words in your vocabulary doesn't shy away from the obvious, objective truth, that you've yet to speak a single truth.
How does he "disregard" them when his writings are filled with commentary that only a highly-educated individual who knows his stuff could provide? He was a Master of not only the classics, but also the popular thought of his day. His knowledge of political economy was vast, and he makes this obvious in his writings.
appeal to authority. You omit the fact that Marx knowingly failed to account for socialistic thought that existed prior to Marx, such as that of Mazdak, Thomas Paine, Chartism, Distributism, etc. All these systems were disregarded as capitalistic because Marx decided to alter previously accepted definitions.
oh, and Prussian Socialism, of course
I love watching facist and communist argue
Who's that guy ^
a liberal
Don’t blame you they’re a bunch of idiots
OH BOY
@Adoring Fan Way to take another fallacy out of context. And No, he definitely didn't. It's obvious that you haven't read Marx's thoughts on utopian socialism. You are just a shit-tier pleb-brain that makes claims without justifying them.
I heard Hitler was a hermaphrodite. Don't ask me for a source though.
Why be a liberal, when you can be a *libertarian*
Liberals are a endangered species
strawman
We are the OG liberals
libruls hur hur hur
You new liberals are a sham
how do i go about this
and yes, in his criticism of utopian socialism, marx wrote within the confines of his definitions, of bourgeoisie and proletariat
>wanting to be any form of liberal ever
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^
“Lol we masculine gays were the first gays!”
How about just not be gay?
That isn't a strawman, pal. Learn how to contextualize. Maybe then you'll be able to provide source material in defense of your claims and won't have to to call people out for fallacies they were never responsible for in a shitty attempt to shut down your opposition who you so moronically presume is dumb enough to believe they are at fault.
Yankee doodle keep it up
>Yankee
you've so far been wholly unable to counter what I've presented. Your attempt to negate my criticism of Marx as disregarding other defitions of socialism for his own plays little effect into the actuality that his criticism merely evaluated the systems before him. He never successfully disregarded them as socialistic system whatsoever. As a result, it is foolish to treat Marx's definition of socialism as the only valid one.
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