Message from @Mr.AnalTwister4000

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social democrats are people who apease the working class

socialists want to resolve the contradiction

of the working class and bourgeosie

@LoJ why is this relevant

2018-05-31 20:26:34 UTC  

But I though Norway was social Democratic

a socialist nation has to liquidate the bourgeoisie class or have a DOTP that doesn't allow capitalists to control it.

2018-05-31 20:27:06 UTC  

@LoJ They are a Liberal Democratic state whose government has implemented Keynesian welfarism within the framework of a capitalist system. They are not socialist, nor have they ever been. Furthermore, there is no such thing as a "communist state" as communism necessarily entails the absence of states.

2018-05-31 20:27:08 UTC  

@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 There are a minority of black men that rob stores, so therefore, does that make them all criminals?

HOW IS THIS RELEVANT

I AM NOT ANSWERING A QUESTION BEFORE UNDERSTANDING HOW IT IS RELEVANT

2018-05-31 20:27:57 UTC  

A minority of Norway is capitalist, does that make them all capitalist?

2018-05-31 20:28:23 UTC  

Norway is a mix of socialism and capitalism

@LoJ YES IT DOES

2018-05-31 20:29:27 UTC  

@LoJ We are referring to the economic system in place, which is predicated on the capitalist mode of production. Socialism isn't welfarism. A liberal democratic state with an extensive "social-safety net" isn't socialist.

2018-05-31 20:31:10 UTC  

Socialism isn''t great, communism isn't great, fascism isn't great, imperialism isn't great and democracy sucks but it is always getting better.

Imperialsim comes from capitalism

so capitalism isn't great?

2018-05-31 20:31:39 UTC  

anyone referred to my country?

2018-05-31 20:32:13 UTC  

please stop with your intellectual definitions of imperialism that changes the definition to bourgeoisie just so literally every nation except the ussr is imperialist

2018-05-31 20:32:18 UTC  

it's retarded

2018-05-31 20:32:24 UTC  

when youre so democratic you need a revoloution to get in power

2018-05-31 20:32:38 UTC  

BASTE

2018-05-31 20:32:39 UTC  

@LoJ You know what's really not great? Your proven lack of understanding as to what socialism and communism actually are.

2018-05-31 20:33:02 UTC  

unironically that's a bad argument @Mr.AnalTwister4000

2018-05-31 20:33:22 UTC  

there was no democratic process for them to gain power

2018-05-31 20:33:23 UTC  

half of my comments are like memes or shitty baits fam

2018-05-31 20:33:28 UTC  

ok

2018-05-31 20:33:43 UTC  

lol

2018-05-31 20:34:27 UTC  

no i dont think that

2018-05-31 20:34:55 UTC  

ok i just learned share x has a recording option

2018-05-31 20:34:56 UTC  

fucking awesome

2018-05-31 20:35:04 UTC  

oh it makes gifs

2018-05-31 20:35:06 UTC  

sweet

2018-05-31 20:35:09 UTC  

All things created by man are inherently flawed, we all are imperfect, however, it is the drive to correct such wrongs by doing the right thing that allow for us to improve and to advance. We can't have rights for all if we infringe on the rights of the few, regardless of how immoral we feel they are, their rights are equal to all others.

2018-05-31 20:36:25 UTC  

literal dictators implies theyve had power

2018-05-31 20:37:05 UTC  

Has Bill Gates ever threatened people with guns to do what he says?

he uses the state

you idiot

2018-05-31 20:37:36 UTC  

How?

2018-05-31 20:37:41 UTC  

just like the socialists

lobbying for example is one way 👍🏿