Message from @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼

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2018-06-02 12:03:32 UTC  

@Huey Long I think that oppressing people for their sexuality is wrong but it should be an offence to promote such acts.

2018-06-02 12:04:26 UTC  

@Aemon that was world war 2 in Europe. 65 million people died in WW2. Japan were responsible for 20 million.

2018-06-02 12:04:40 UTC  

Reasonable. If they keep it in the closet, they'll be less likely to spread the sin.

2018-06-02 12:06:05 UTC  

@Huey Long if homosexuals are in relationships with eachother that's their choice imo but people who are in movements such as pride should be punished

2018-06-02 12:06:25 UTC  

Oh wait, they'd like the sausage they'd get in prison.

2018-06-02 12:06:46 UTC  

It shouldn't be recognized by law or society as normal or okay.

2018-06-02 12:07:02 UTC  

Although, this differs from culture to culture.

2018-06-02 12:07:31 UTC  

In a culture where homosexuality is okay, who am I to judge. As long as they don't try to spread their values, it's A-okay.

2018-06-02 12:07:44 UTC  

@Huey Long I don't mind gay people but ones who show off about it should be at least fined.

2018-06-02 12:07:53 UTC  

Or community service

2018-06-02 12:08:07 UTC  

They shouldn't be killed imo

2018-06-02 12:10:39 UTC  

fuck you man

2018-06-02 12:10:42 UTC  

I don't see why anyone should show their sexuality in public, it makes no sense.

2018-06-02 12:10:49 UTC  

It's a public place.

2018-06-02 12:10:49 UTC  

:/

2018-06-02 12:11:03 UTC  

how could you even vonsider yourself any form of marxist if you spout out such reactionary garbage

2018-06-02 12:11:14 UTC  

**Some people have morals.**

2018-06-02 12:11:17 UTC  

**dab**

2018-06-02 12:11:21 UTC  

morals have no value

2018-06-02 12:11:36 UTC  

ethics =/= morals

@Deleted User you've clearly never been on the finbol server if you think all marxists are non-reactionary 😂

all good marxists who are organized and in a party structure are non-reactionary because any good marxist party say the CPGB_ML or PKP would punish them for reactionary and counter-revolutionary thought.

2018-06-02 12:14:48 UTC  

well personally myself im not against gays i believe in full equality between individuals

2018-06-02 12:15:06 UTC  

btw im not gay myself

I have the conception that Marxism is just Social justice warriorism but with actually good theory if you aren't defending the oppressed people whether class, gender, race, whatever then you're not a very good marxist.

Engels made fun of people who think that just having a class revolution would make all other oppression disappear.

2018-06-02 12:17:16 UTC  

Reactionary marxists aint marxists after all imo

yeah because they don't read any theory
and they wouldn't exist in a genuine communist party unless that party is downright shit

2018-06-02 12:18:38 UTC  

i'm actually working on a paper about this issue in marxism, that class oppositions (bourgeois/prols, non-LGBT/LGBT and Men/Women etc.) are still present after the revolution and it is our duty to terminate it

2018-06-02 12:18:49 UTC  

as marxists

2018-06-02 12:19:17 UTC  

also the USSR law was against pedophilia but still penalized sodomy, which is a bad take on the subject

2018-06-02 12:19:25 UTC  

USSR isn't flawless

2018-06-02 12:19:38 UTC  

you learn from the mistakes of the past and construct solutions to surpass it

2018-06-02 12:19:49 UTC  

that's marxist praxis done right

2018-06-02 12:20:23 UTC  

^^

2018-06-02 12:20:39 UTC  

Marx and Engels weren't homophobes as a mistranslated letter tries to "prove it", they were against pederasty, and they were very close friends with Bebel which was an advocate for LGBT and Women's rights

2018-06-02 12:21:28 UTC  

Engels never claimed any form opposition to Bebel's views even tho he was vocal about other major issues he didn't agree with Bebel

2018-06-02 12:22:52 UTC  

while Connolly was more vocal against Bebel views about marriage because connolly while being a major revolutionary and marxist theorist, still was influenced by Catholicism and traditionalism

2018-06-02 12:23:25 UTC  

The USSR legal system of 1936 was flawless

2018-06-02 12:23:45 UTC  

and we need LGBT pride because we can't even go out in the streets without fearing for our security

2018-06-02 12:24:11 UTC  

I can't even go out with my boyfriend in certain neighborhoods because we could get beaten up or harrassed