Message from @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼

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**coups guatemala**

2018-06-05 18:24:32 UTC  

afghanistan

2018-06-05 18:24:33 UTC  

poland

**coups democratic countries but still wants democracy**

2018-06-05 18:24:35 UTC  

east germany

Afghanistan was defending the socialist republic there so no

2018-06-05 18:24:49 UTC  

DDR actually chased after fascists while the West germany was accepting fascists and collaborators in high posts, just like france and the US

2018-06-05 18:24:49 UTC  

*conquers other nations but claims liberation*

2018-06-05 18:24:55 UTC  

it basically took half of what you've defined it as. they took lands which was not their but the poles resisting was not anti imperialism

east germany was because allies declined a neutral german state

but ussr wasn't monopoly capitalism

2018-06-05 18:25:14 UTC  

Allies literally wanted to genocide the Germans

it isn't characteristic of it at all

2018-06-05 18:25:18 UTC  

Papon was a minister and massacred algerians in the streets of paris before he was called out for having been a nazi collaborator

2018-06-05 18:25:18 UTC  

lol yeah west ger, france and the US accepted fash in gov

2018-06-05 18:25:21 UTC  

USSR would see (as you just put it) poland and east germany as liberations

2018-06-05 18:25:27 UTC  

so would the allies see the coups as liberation

2018-06-05 18:25:29 UTC  

it goes both ways

2018-06-05 18:25:36 UTC  

Papon, Mitterand @Mr.AnalTwister4000

2018-06-05 18:25:39 UTC  

Laval

'allies see coups as liberation@

>gets rid of democracy

2018-06-05 18:26:02 UTC  

yes the allies see it as a way to spread evil and fear across the world and they don't feel like they're doing the right thing

2018-06-05 18:26:02 UTC  

100%

2018-06-05 18:26:03 UTC  

totally

the shah a monarch being in power is a 'democracy'

2018-06-05 18:26:10 UTC  

The US just accepted nazi scientists in high security project

Pinochet was a 'democracy'

2018-06-05 18:26:21 UTC  

evil is a baseless value

2018-06-05 18:26:24 UTC  

and you need a helicopter ride

2018-06-05 18:26:24 UTC  

dab

2018-06-05 18:26:34 UTC  

The iron curtain ironically helped Eastern Europe because now it's too poor for refugees to want to move there

2018-06-05 18:26:35 UTC  

the allies wanted to expand their hegemony for profit

2018-06-05 18:26:43 UTC  

Laval was far prior to west ger

2018-06-05 18:26:52 UTC  

it's not "evil", it's just in their interests and they won't let anything stand in their way

2018-06-05 18:27:00 UTC  

i'm talking about france Kristoffer

2018-06-05 18:27:25 UTC  

youre talking in the context of the GDR before the split was even a thing

2018-06-05 18:27:28 UTC  

from the allies POV, they are liberating through coup
from the USSR POV, they are liberating through conquest

2018-06-05 18:27:31 UTC  

this goes both ways

2018-06-05 18:27:40 UTC  

I was talking about post WW2 in general